Swing-state households would lose at least $70G within first year of Green New Deal, study finds

If sustainability is a must, then tending chickens isn't a hobby, but an absolute necessity.

If liberals were genuinely concerned about the environment, they wouldn't so strongly support completely unnecessary population growth.

The greatest environmental accomplishments of the 21st century were pushed by the GOP.

 

Name them!

 

Why don’t you share some with us?

I am not going to waste my time on proving or disproving and obviously ridiculous claim. This was planted in right wing media so it could be mindlessly repeated by people who aren’t going to notice taht there isn’t any clear basis for the claim or backup in the press releases (interestingly, Fox did not link the study (because they know it’s audience pleasing BS).

That’s a tell. Especially for Fox News, which has a history of promoting these hyper slanted public relations pieces.

 

Liberals support unnecessary population growth? That's new to me. In contrast, it would be conservatives howling about "freedoms" if there were even a hint of a discussion about population control measures.

Second, I'd be happy to hear about the great environmental accomplishments pushed by the GOP.

 

Looks like yet another liberal that can't find any substantially lower estimates of the cost of the green energy bill.
In my searches 70k in the OP is starting to look like the middle ground estimate.


Green New Deal to cost up to $100,000 per home in first year

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-to-cost-up-to-100-000-per-home-in-first-year

 

Did you know the endangered species act was a Nixon accomplishment?

"Nixon used his presidency to champion sweeping legislation to protect America’s air, water and animals. These accomplishments are often forgotten, overshadowed by the political disgrace that caused him to resign the presidency less than a year after he signed the law.

Despite the political conservatism that fueled Richard Nixon’s election, the United States became increasingly aware of environmental issues during the 1960s and early 1970s. In 1962, Rachel Carson’s Silent Springexposed the environmental effects of widely used pesticides like DDT, and in 1969 the United States experienced what was then its largest-ever oil spill in Santa Barbara due to a leak at an offshore oil rig. Images of pristine beaches turned into oil slicks and reports of thousands of dead animals further galvanized the nascent environmental movement."

https://www.history.com/news/richard-nixon-endangered-species-act-esa-environment

 

That was the 20th CENTURY!

This is what you actually alleged;

 

So you didn't know about Nixon's contribution to saving the environment and I don't remember saying what you claimed I did.

 

It was @Old Man Fred who made that claim and you responded to the request to supply them.

 

This post is nonsense and just more drivel from you without any meaningful debate.

Read up on the GND and what it entails. The numbers are currently accurate. As accurate as an estimate can be, that is.

I am all in favor of Solar Power and the future is in this energy source but going about it the way AOC or any of the progressive idiots currently in office want is ludicrous. Let technology and business drive the market and drive the move over to alternate energy sources. America will move in that direction if gov't leaves it's hands off of it and takes it boot off the neck of the taxpayer.

Socialism will only slow it down or kill it entirely.

 

I responded to the following.

 

I fully agree that force feeding alternative energy is the quickest way to slow it down. I live in an off grid solar home and did so to live a modest low cost retirement. I could and do extoll it's joys on a regular basis but I would also be the last one to force anyone else to embrace this lifestyle. I do tire of these AGW zealots sitting in their high energy consuming houses looking down there noses at me though because I'm a "denier".

 

Exactly, let the business side and technology side drive the move to alternative energy like Solar. In fact, solar will be mainstream soon enough but the technology is just not quite there yet. Gov't, especially idiot liberals like AOC will just muck everything up in their quest to change and steer the country instead of letting things happen naturally.

 

When you live downstream from Three Mile Island, like I do.....

 

That’s already happening.

 

The figures you quote sound about the same as the current rate of debt being run up anyway by the phony conservatives in power now. If we could transform our energy production to clean renewable power and upgrade our healthcare system in the process, at least we’d have something to show for it. In case you haven’t noticed, they are printing money at breakneck speed already.

 

Interesting that you say the numbers sound about the same as now while all the other liberals in here say the numbers are to wild to even be believed

 

Then why do we need the green new deal?

 

We may not.

However, I do think it is imperative, and in the national interest, to continue to subsidize alternative energy research and dissimination for the foreseeable future.

If we don’t, we will lose (and are losing) leadership in this technology to the Chinese.

The first country that successfully gets off the fossil fuel tit, wins.

 

I'm fine with government grants for R&D but subsidizing alternative energy companies is a waste of tax payer dollars.

 

But the enormous ongoing subsidy and taxpayer giveaways to oil and fossil fuel companies is a waste of taxpayer dollars? Even though having spearheading of building of a green revolution to allow long term sustainable energy in the USA will last many times longer than the deadly fossil fuel, short term America the USA has been building.

Well, don't worry! China is building a Green Revolution, and the USA will become an another 2nd rate losers in the Global Competition.

The supreme irony of the Republican's failing commitment for Make America Great Again is itself a Bigly Supreme Irony in itself!

 

fake news, how much did the 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut for the corps cost each American household?

no one is gonna force every household to spend 70k

 

So is subsidizing the fossil fuel cartel and nuclear energy but you don't seem to have any problem with that massive waste of taxpayer dollars.

 

I can’t think of a single major industry that developed in the US that did not benefit from either protection or subsidy, or direct government investment. Not one.

 

You don’t see any of the flat earth Trumpsters complaining about Trump’s continued attempts to have the Federal government subsidize coal and nuclear power plants.