YouTube Banning Word 'Christian' In Ads - You figure!

I am the religious right and don't want a theocracy. Especially not a secular humanists one.

 

government should not be pushing that there is or is not a God

 

No government should represent the people.

 

What kind of nonsense is that? Next you will be telling us the King of England wasn't giving out free land to Christian denominations. Who do you think settled the colonies if not Christians?

Out of 13 colonies, 8 had their own established Church, only 5 did not. The colony of Massachusetts was settled by the Puritans and it had an influence on the whole country. This is why we were known to be Puritanical up until the 1970's. The Ivy league colleges all started out as seminaries, and in school the hymn that was sung for Thanksgiving was: 'We gather together to ask the Lord's Blessing'.

Because most colonies had their own established Church and discriminated against other denominations, the colonists were fearful that if they had a Federal government it might establish its own Church and discriminate against them. This is why we have a separation of Church and State. It was to protect the American people. This way they could worship as they please without interference from Washington - and this includes the use of government buildings as well. The Rotunda of the Capital Building had Christian services every Sunday.

 

Excuse me, but there was only one Christian Theocracy and that was the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine), and it was the only civilization that survived for 1,000 years. They lost most of its power when the Franks attacked Constantinople in the 4th Crusade and the population began to dwindle. And yet according to the historian Duran, when the Turks took over Constantinople they still had more educated people than all of Europe; more libraries than all of Europe, and more universities than all of Europe.

 

Toxic Christians such as the Puritans, who were booted out of Europe, ended up settling and populating what would eventually become the United States.

The founders of this country were men of the Enlightenment and were as far from traditional Christianity as you could generally get at the time. Look at Thomas Paine:

United States Founding Father Thomas Paine wasn't just a political revolutionary but also took a radical approach to religion. Born in England in 1736, Paine, moved to the New World in 1774, thanks in part to Benjamin Franklin. He took part in the American Revolution and even inspired the settlers to declare independence from Britain. His pamphlet "Common Sense" and pamphlet series "The American Crisis" made a case for revolution.

Paine would go on to also be an influence in the French Revolution. Because of his political activism in defense of the revolutionary movement, he was arrested in France in 1793. In Luxembourg Prison, he worked on his pamphlet, "The Age of Reason." In this work, he objected to organized religion, criticized Christianity and advocated for reason and free thought.

https://www.learnreligions.com/top-thomas-paine-quotes-on-religion-4072775​

 

Then you either don't understand what a theocracy is or you don't understand what secular humanism is.

 

Hm, depends, but I'll warn you that my answer is going to start getting really boring for people who don't geek out over digital advertising.

TL;DR - if only Christianity is being excluded then I'm 100% against it. If they are trying to exclude ALL religious keyword targeting, then that depends on what's going on behind that.

For context, I reactivated my Adwords account and tried putting together some sample ads and it didn't stop me from selecting any religious keywords, Christian or otherwise. My guess is that they are doing a staged rollout, which is common for changes to big digital products. You come up with some changes and try rolling it out to, say, 5% of users, then 10%, etc., looking for bugs along the way until you get to 100%. That or there's something later in the approval process that flags the keywords and mine just haven't been flagged yet.

For the record, my professional advice would be to not target the word "Christian" anyway. It will be an expensive keyword to target and you won't get a good return with something so broad and untargeted. It would be better to go for phrases more specific to your goals, like "christian dating," "christian apologetics," "christian counseling." Not sure if those are going to be blocked too, though.

Anyway, some overgeneralized background: advertisers generally want to have as many target options as possible and their audience is more sensitive to some targeting than others. From what I recall, for example, you used to be able to target audiences by race or religion in Facebook ads (different from keywords, but similar concept), but there was a lot of backlash against that from users. Advertisers liked it, general users objected. Facebook eventually took that targeting option away in favor of the tastes of the end audience.

Me? I don't care about being targeted by ads. I prefer it, actually. I'm going to see ads anyway, so I might as well have a better chance of seeing ads relevant to my interests. Anyway, if Google is reacting to demands from their end users (as Facebook did), I personally disagree, but I can see the impulse.

 

I inderstand both.

 

Not if you think secular humanism has anything to do with theocracy besides opposition to it.

 

Secular humanists have a world view, that worldview is their religion and that religion is no more valid than anyones just because it has no deity. As an American i have the right to freedom from secular humanism.

Freedom of religion does not by default make secular humanism the state religion.

 

Secular humanists have a worldview. You are as free from secular humanism as you are from any other worldview, unless you have beef with beliefs like inherent rights and reason in problem solving.

 

Hmmm thoes are the same Christian values that framed the constitution.

 

Secular humanism is the belief that people can be decent human beings without the 'envelopment' of love emanating from God's Holy Spirit. Well I certainly didn't see that humanism in atheist Soviet Union nor in pagan Nazi Germany which emphasized their own will, rather than God's Will. Did you?

Nor do I see it in our own liberal, atheist and pseudo Christian government with their support of terrorists in the Middle East and Nazis in Ukraine - nor in the lies they use to cover up their actions to the American people. What I see is a government that cares more about propagating the gay life style, than the children dying from our sanctions and bombs.

 

Even if you were correct about your definition of secular humanism, this is a complete non sequitur.

You are making a rationally unjustified jump. You are jumping from "You can be good without God" to "Everyone who is without God is good." That's complete nonsense and, honestly, I think you know it. If you are honestly telling me you need more explanation to understand that point, I'll do what I can to further elucidate it. Neither the Soviet Union nor Nazi Germany were humanist. At all.

Even if you were to spend a modicum of effort ACTUALLY studying secular humanism, you will quickly and easily find that it is incompatible with both the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.

 

Funny how you would pick out Paine, the one person who was not born and raised in the colonies; did not attend university here; and was not representative of the great Christian minds that formed our Constitution. You said Paine went on to the French revolution, which is understandable since it ended up in the massive evil of the 'terror' and the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people.

That atrocities such as those hadn't occurred here in the colonies, except maybe by the British or Huguenots towards the settlers, means that Christian reasoning prevailed rather than passions. It reflects well the righteousness of the early Christian settlers.

 

As a Christian, I believe the further people are from God the colder their hearts will get. But I'm not talking about individuals here, because an atheist in a Christian society can still retain the values and the love that emanates around him - even more so at times than many fundamentalists who are still wrapped around themselves. Of course humanism can exist in a secular society, but for how long before the basic Christian values the humanism was formed on starts to die?

Then there's God's Enlightenment and how one reasons, and that can differ greatly between a devout person and an atheist. Abortion is a perfect example. When I was young and an atheist I could only think of the mother, especially if she was unmarried. I still have the compassionate, but I do know now that it is wrong.

 

The rest were deists at best and probably would have been atheists in this day and age. We're far enough beyond the old myths that great minds tend not to be religious anymore.

 

America was not founded on Christian ideals, I can post several quotes from the founders if you wish...

Furthermore, what we were founded on is not what we represent today, see slavery, voting rights and women’s suffrage if you need examples

 

If they were deists they wouldn't be Christians. And if they were atheists they would have turned this country into one large prison like the Soviet Union - which by the way is what Soros and the Washington ideologues are trying to do.

 

It still doesn’t say one man and one woman. Doesn’t matter how you spin it

 

I keep posting quotes from the Founding Fathers that proves they were not only Christians, but highly devout Christians that wanted to spread Christianity throughout the world. Something they were doing quite well, because later on there were American orphanages, hospitals, and schools all over the Middle East, Near East, Asia and Africa.

 

Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man - Thomas Jefferson
The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason - Ben Franklin
This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it - John Adams
Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst - Thomas Paine
Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise - James Madison

 

So, in other words, you understand nothing about atheism and are repeating the same mistake that has already been corrected. Great.

 

And I can post just as many showing they were against the nation being founded on religion.

Which is irrelevant, do you believe we should hold the ideals of those when the country was founded?

You realize you wouldn’t be allowed to even vote, yes?