Climate change: We haven't experienced anything like this in the past 2,000 yearsClimate scientists

There are environmental organizations scattered around the world, all concerned with global warming, & all with a plan. The U.N. has a plan. The U.S. has the Green New Deal. Probably none of them can answer your detailed questions with certainty, for there are so many unknowns, & we don't yet know which, or what parts of each plan, will ultimately be used. We have to work our way thru it as we go. I believe China is included in these plans, yes.

 

Probably ???

 

Why would a country agree to reduce their economic growth resulting in a reduced standard of living trajectory if they did not know what the effect on global temperature would be ??? My questions are basic to any CO2 emissions reduction plan.

The Green New Deal is a joke.

China is NOT included. Neither is India.

 

By allowing them to cause global warming without restrictions.

 

By allowing them to cause global warming without restrictions.

 

So what's being done about deforestation?

 

So what's being done about deforestation? Did either Kyoto or Paris include caps on deforestation?

 

All of us are responsible. All of us should work together to fix it. The Paris Accords were important because they represent movement forward in that direction. Trump was wrong to pull out.

 

There is nothing to fix. Global warming is beneficial.

 

China has been worried about their economy overheating. Thus they have reduced investments in some sectors. And, now they've reduced the value of the yuan, which is a significant hit on American companies that want to sell goods in China - cell phones, agriproducts, etc.

I think we need to be careful about how we prognosticate about economic moves by China.

And, longer term their growth potential is gigantic. The idea that we can keep up with a country 4X our size without even figuring out how to get every American well educated shows a TOTAL misunderstanding of the future.

 

1. Reduction in economic growth is not necessary. New technologies will create thousands of new jobs to offset those things lost. It should actually improve the economy.
2. The Green New Deal is a generalized plan for working toward stopping global warming. It is NOT a law. It is also open to changes or amendments as we move forward. But it's not a joke.
3. I'm offering you one link on China & one link on India regarding their efforts toward fixing global warming.
https://www.popsci.com/china-us-climate-greenhouse-emissions/
https://www.google.com/search?q=is+...ome..69i57.12439j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I hope this helps.

 

We have virtually parallel understanding of China.
Where i moved away from, i used to corner the Chinese Businessmen who were university graduates and probe their minds.

They informed me as natives of China and highly educated that China needs a lot of help. They are forced to stop a lot of investing and hunker down. They all agree that Trump is doing the correct thing.

They need capital rather badly so their growth pattern has slowed way down.

 

Needed or not China has been rocked back on their hind heels.

They seem more devoted to reducing smog than in global warming. Any reduction in coal use is purely based on smog in cities.

 

And to imagine had we told you a bartending woman of 29 would come up with this, despite the worlds best minds still in the dark, could you have believed in the bartender?

 

No. I'm not interested in giving China any advantages.

There isn't anything we (or even the rest of the world) are "giving" to China.

What Paris did was point out a serious problem and push for commitments from each country to help make a difference.

We don't have much of a moral argument for more than that, as the USA is the worst contributor to warming on a per capita basis across the entire world, let alone China. Plus, WE were one of the top contributors to warming due to our huge participation in the industrial age.

 

Come’on man. Increasing the price of energy reduces economic growth.

The green new deal has nothing to do with global warming.

China will never compromise their economic growth. They just canceled their solar energy subsidies and are refusing to honor the existing payments. They do however sell as much as they can to the gullible western democracies.

 

Please cite an analytical source indicating that China is having a problem with growth in GDP..

 

The cheapest energy we can get right now is through insulation and other technologies related to smart use of energy we have.

Overall, clean energy technology supplies solutions for lowering energy costs in pretty much every economic sector.

In the end, this direction is a net benefit to GDP.

 

What is the ROI ???

Solar and wind are subsidized and are not available 24/7/365. That means that redundant capacity must be provided for the times when the wind don’t blow and the sun don’t shine.

 

We have also reduced our carbon emissions more than anyone else. Did Kyoto or Paris set limits on deforestation?

 

It’s immoral to restrict the proliferation of fossil fuel power generation plants which produce electricity 24/7/365. Global warming is beneficial. China emits twice the amount of CO2 than the US does.

 

Useage may be moved and production can be averaged over larger areas.

 

Not completely. How much does that cost ?? In every case in which a significant investment in solar or wind has been made redundant fossil fuel capacity (or nuclear, hydro, geothermal) is required.

 

That's not how these agreements work.

Such organizations are not going to be successful at ordering some other nation to take some specific action. We do not have that kind of world government.

What Paris did was push for commitments on reduction goals to be voluntarily contributed by each country. How those countries achieve their goals is up to each individual country.

If Brazil wants to meet its goal by slowing deforestation, that is up to them, not us.

 

I don't agree.