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Nunes Aide Is Leaking the Ukraine Whistleblower’s Name, Sources Say

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They weren't 'his' complaints. It seems they were complaints from his colleagues around the water cooler.
     
    Fred C Dobbs, Oct 31, 2019
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    Yes, "pretty much"; only without the coloration of the so-called whistleblower's opinion.
     
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    Thought Criminal, Oct 31, 2019
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  3. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama had the FBI on the media as well. They certainly did his bidding.
     
    Fred C Dobbs, Oct 31, 2019
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    Odd that it's done behind close doors
     
    struth, Oct 31, 2019
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    What law states that a whistleblower is guaranteed anonymity? Include link please.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol:
     
    Dutch, Oct 31, 2019
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  7. Bluesguy

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    No it's not. And we have a right to know what were his motivations and who were his accomplices.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 31, 2019
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    His motivations were "credible" and "urgent"

    The people that gave him the information will have to be gotten from them, not him...

    I expect Vindman is one of them though, if that makes you feel better..
     
    Egoboy, Oct 31, 2019
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  9. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why were they "urgent"?
     
    Fred C Dobbs, Oct 31, 2019
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    So what your saying is all "hear-say"

    And NONE of that matters if the accusations are vetted. And that is happening right now.
     
    grapeape, Oct 31, 2019
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  11. grapeape

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    All due respect Fred, but why does that matter ? Are the core accusations true ?

    You have someone who is hearing everyone say "this guys doing illegal things", and none of them are reporting it (for reasons unknown), so he reports it.

    The IG does a cursory investigations, finds the accusations credible, so they move to the next step which is full investigation.
     
    grapeape, Oct 31, 2019
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    Does the whisltblower have the clearance ? If not, who gave it to him ? Were those he "heard talking" the ones breaking the law ?

    Remember that the whistleblower followed the rules and the law in the way they filed the complaint.

    But why is the defense of the right to attack the messenger, and not the message ?
     
    grapeape, Oct 31, 2019
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    It's probably either because Ukraine hadn't gotten their aid yet (urgent to Ukraine) or because the president was jeopardizing National Security by withholding the aid (urgent to US)...
     
    Egoboy, Oct 31, 2019
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    Either way, what he said was correct. Right ?
     
    grapeape, Oct 31, 2019
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    And that will come out in the full investigation whether that is correct of not.

    But what the president released, pretty much corroborated what was in the complaint.
     
    grapeape, Oct 31, 2019
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    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/R45345.pdf

     
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    your wrong yet again

    Motives have no bearing on evidence
     
    grapeape, Oct 31, 2019
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    So what although you misinterpret what that means and who makes the final decision on the matter. People were leaking classified information to this guy and he went outside the bounds and colluded with political parties to try and remove a President with whom he disagreed on foreign policy. Who elected this guy to determine foreign policy and where does the Constitution say that a subordinate disagreeing on foreign policy is grounds for removal?
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 31, 2019
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    I am perfectly correct again his motives to engage in his little scheme bear directly upon it and we the People have a right to know who all were involved in it.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 31, 2019
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    Wow... let's talk misinterpreting things someday...

    P.S. Congrats for getting to 100K posts...
     
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    I'm curious: is there anything wrong with leaking the whistle blower's name?
     
    RodB, Oct 31, 2019
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    Bluesguy, Oct 31, 2019
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    I'm not: Yes
     
    Egoboy, Oct 31, 2019
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    Sure but in the meantime

    People were leaking classified information to this guy and he went outside the bounds and colluded with political parties to try and remove a President with whom he disagreed on foreign policy. Who elected this guy to determine foreign policy and where does the Constitution say that a subordinate disagreeing on foreign policy is grounds for removal?
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 31, 2019
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    The aid was released and the Ukrainians have it so there was obviously no "Quid pro quo".

    How was US security being jeopardized?
     
    Fred C Dobbs, Oct 31, 2019
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