Nunes Aide Is Leaking the Ukraine Whistleblower’s Name, Sources Say

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    True but the proof is about to surface.
     
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    Yeah, instead he just prosecuted more of them than all other Presidents in history, combined.

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/obama-leaves-trump-a-mixed-legacy-on-whistle-blowers

    Eight years later, these words ring hollow to admirers of dissenters such as Edward Snowden and Thomas Drake, two of eight national-security “leakers” who have been charged with violating the 1917 Espionage Act during Obama’s Presidency. His Justice Department has prosecuted more such cases against whistle-blowers than all previous Administrations combined, setting a precedent that some fear Donald Trump will invoke—and drastically build upon—to further muzzle dissent.

    The zealous prosecution of national-security whistle-blowers is a stain on Obama’s legacy. (After the case against Drake collapsed, in 2011, a federal judge chastised the Justice Department for putting him through “four years of hell,” describing its conduct as “unconscionable.”)

    https://www.longislandpress.com/2017/01/14/obamas-legacy-historic-war-on-whistleblowers/


    As for Obama’s record, here’s what history will show: In his eight years in office, the Obama Justice Department spearheaded eight Espionage Act prosecutions, more than all US administrations combined. Journalists were also caught in the crosshairs: Investigators sought phone records for Associated Press journalists, threatened to jail an investigative reporter for The New York Times, and named a Fox News reporter a co-conspirator in a leak case. In Texas, a journalist investigating private defense contractors became the focus of a federal prosecution and was initially charged for sharing a hyperlink containing hacked information that had already been made public.

    Those Espionage Act cases included the trial of Chelsea Manning, who was held in solitary confinement for nearly one year prior to her military trial, prompting a condemnation from the UN special rapporteur on torture.


    “The absolute twisted passion with which the administration under Obama’s leadership has pursued whistleblowers is just appalling,” says Norman Solomon, executive director of the Institute for Public Accuracy and co-founder of RootsAction.org. “And as far as I can tell, the administration is unrepentant in that process. There’s just no other administration that comes close.”
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a tread about him, with his photo, on PF.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My theory is 'we don't know'.
     
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    So you don't know the history of what's been going on for the past few years regarding, Strzok, McCabe, Page and all the rest? No knowledge of any 'insurance policy'?
     
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    He'll make someone a great prison wife.
     
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    Yes, more proof.
     
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    The leftists love the "death threats", because it lets them play the victim card, without having to experience any of the pesky inconveniences and hardship associated with being an actual victim.

    And again I'll ask, as I've asked before, where are they martyrs? Where, among all the hundreds and thousands of leftist "death threat victims" are the martyrs? Where are the bodies? Where are the corpses that can be pointed to to demonstrate that Twitter death threats are something that should be taken seriously?

    That said, why would any person on the right want to kill this particular "whistleblower"? It's clear that he's Schifty's lapdog, and a leftist lickspittle. His existence is proof positive that this "impeachment" is a farce, so why would the right want him not to exist?
     
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    We will see . Why the great delay in surfacing the "truth" since the Trumpian forces have held all of the cards in two branches for three years now and all the cards for two previous years?
     
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    I heard the schiest ! Strozok made stupid comments to his concubine. What proove need facts do you have on McCabe? All I heard and see are accusations, partisan laced, speculative and unproven.
     
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    I don't wish rape on any incarcerated American. We sit in judgment on our forefathers that did not actively fight to end slavery, and then sit silently while untold numbers of men are raped daily while incarcerated in facilities under full government control.

    Rather than sit in judgment on our forebears, we should be looking for ways to more securely extend basic human rights to our fellow Americans, and not being raped daily is most certainly a basic human right.
     
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    Normal government incompetence of course.
     
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    There's a reason that we have whistleblower laws which afford protection to these individuals. We want to encourage individuals to step forward when they see instances of wrongdoing and subjecting them to a pool of sharks without making every rational effort to protect them will discourage future whistleblowers.
     
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    Any comments on that thread you would view as threatening?
     
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    Ok, so even if you "do not know," does it still make sense to try and protect him from the chance that he could face significant threats of harm?
     
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    LOL you didn't notice he got fired, you saying it was without cause now? You hear he dropped his lawsuit, wonder why? I see two reason's why he wouldn't fight to get his job back if he felt wronged. First he cut a deal and rolled and dropped the suite to keep him from prosecution or he dropped it so he could get some leniency.
     
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    You act as though people who make death threats are rational or that it is appropriate to ignore those death threats simply because many do not result in actual harm.
     
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    His motives cannot change the EVIDENCE

    MOTIVE have no part in it if the evidence proves out, which the main accusation already has
     
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    Of course and it is a noble thing to do. I'm not criticizing the whistle blower law. I'm criticizing the whistle blower himself for failure to use his noggin in getting involved in this thing.
     
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    Obama's hostility to the press and whistleblowers was not extensively reported for obvious reasons. So, it was easy to miss.

    The Obama administration successfully intimidated journalists and there sources.

    "Since 2009, the Obama administration has prosecuted more people as whistleblowers under the 1917 Espionage Act than all former presidents combined, a fact often rehashed in journalistic circles. In some of those cases, officials seized journalists’ phone and email records to use in their investigation. James Goodale, who was The New York Times’ chief counsel during Pentagon Papers coverage, has told CJR that Obama’s aggressive crackdown on whistleblowers is “antediluvian, conservative, backwards. Worse than Nixon. He thinks that anyone who leaks is a spy! I mean, it’s cuckoo.”
    COLUMBIA JOURNALISM REVIEW, Obama’s broken promises on transparency, By Kira Goldenberg, OCTOBER 10, 2013.
    https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/cjp_report_on_us_press_freedom.php
     
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    unless you are the IG, you do
     
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    The Ukraine disarmed in the face of te Russian threat.
    Which administration urged them to do that?
     
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    I wonder which side of the RUSSIA! hoax you were on.
     
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    I did not address his firing, and no one knows why he dropped his lawsuit
    but I see that you have not missed a beat in speculating up a storm. The facts are not out yet about McCabe so youbare filling the void with specilation.
     
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    Since there never was and is no Russian hoax your question is baseless.
     
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