House approves impeachment rules, ushering in new phase of inquiry — live updates

Here, we have PARTIZAN1 attempted to shame me by saying "you can't handle the truth", in a very "A Few Good Men" tone I might add.

The poster then goes further in an attempt to shame any idea from me, by adding the Hollywood "dramatic effect", comparing a very real and debatable topic, to thinking that Pearl Harbor was a hoax. The dramatic effect is to get people to stop paying attention.

The real fact is, Russia did absolutely zero collusion with Trump and this was proven through the Mueller report. If this was false, they would have said so, they didn't. In fact, Mueller was so afraid to "not say so", that he gave up his ability to do so, giving this responsibility to William Barr.

WAKE UP PEOPLE

Don't let these Deep State sympathizers format the conversation, without their formatting, they literally have nothing.

 

Strange, now all if a sudden the republicans are against rules. There is not one rule in this that wasn't in previous hearings and do remember that it was their rules that Pelosi followed to this point. They know they are faced with the likely hood that Trump will be impeached and the the defense they have is obstruction, distraction and attack the messenger. The substance is not an option as testimony after testimony keeps coming to the same conclusion. GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!

 

Can I get fries and a Coke with that whopper?

 

So the defense needs to clear all subpoenas and question with the committee chairman? That's fair?

 

The "whistleblower" worked in the Obama White House including with Biden and Brennan? The cover up continues.

 

Honestly, though:

Can any Trump Supporter be outraged at a (in their opinion) "Mischaracterized Headline" WHEN:

It is the Modus Operandi at Breitbart, GP, Etc. (All Day/Every Day)?

As far as the actual OP Topic:

Why is the GOP so opposed to "Transparency"?

It seems like Faux Outrage (and Partisan Hypocrisy) run amok.

Oh well...

 

TROLL HEADLINE - Where is the staff to nuke this garbage?

 

Unnecessary. Its been nuked several times by posters.

Do you not enjoy target-rich environments?

 

Makes the shooting easier. lol

The title of this thread is stupid.

 

LMFAO!! I like how you put the punchline at the beginning of your joke, AJ.

The OP did the same thing.

 

Yeah?

But, so IS 99% of the Stuff that gets posted by people using COMEDY Sites (like Breitbart, GP, Etc.) for Thread Starters.

^So, there's that,

What is good for the goose, etc.

Funny how that works.

Also:

Why are you violating Rule 8 by questioning the Mods?

Report it if you have a problem, don't discuss it in Open Forums.

^Nothing personal, just a friendly reminder.

Now, back ON-Topic, Why is the GOP so terrified of "Transparency"?

Carry on.

 

When do you add something of substance? Clearly their rejection of the ridiculous rules had nothing to do with transparency. You have no regard for truth. It's pathetic.

 

Thanks, Bro'...

Being PF's Undisputed (and Inarguable) Living Legend makes me feel the need to "Give 'em what they want".

I do my best. Thanks for the Shout Out.

As far as the OP:

I still am waiting to hear why the GOP finds "Transparency" to be a bad thing.

Carry on.

 

While the procedures are slightly D.C. insider-sounding, this vote, forced by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, represents the first time the lower Chamber of Congress has officially gone on record with regard to the impeachment of Trump, and it forces vulnerable Democrats who were waffling on whether to publicly back removal of the president from office by force on the record in support of the radical leftist wing of the party.

So, on Wednesday, McCarthy, the House Minority Leader, drafted a resolution formally condemning the way in which Pelosi launched the impeachment inquiry.The text of the resolution that McCarthy introduced is as follows:

But as the GOP leader in the House of Representatives, even though he is in the minority, McCarthy has the ability–he is the only Republican with the ability–to force a vote on a privileged resolution almost immediately. So McCarthy did just that–he introduced the resolution as privileged and forced the full House of Representatives to vote on it on Wednesday evening:

Democrats fought back against McCarthy’s efforts, pushing what’s called a motion to table McCarthy’s privileged resolution. That is where the vote of record happened–a vote for the motion to table was a vote against the resolution, and vice versa. The motion to table succeeded along party lines, with 231 House Democrats voting for it and 193 House Republicans voting against it. Former Republican, now “Independent” Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan, also voted with the Democrats. Five Republicans and three Democrats did not vote.

In other words, in plain English, the Democrats, by shooting down McCarthy’s resolution, have now formally all gone on the record in support of Pelosi’s impeachment inquiry–and the Republicans have now all gone on the record against it. Even more plainly, this was the vote that formally opened impeachment proceedings. They are all on the record now.

No Democrat in the House of Representatives now claim it is not their intention to attempt to remove the duly elected president of the United States from office by force rather than by an election. They also cannot be ambivalent about it anymore. There is no more splitting hairs, no more supporting an “investigation” without backing impeachment, no more saying they need more facts to figure out what’s next. All the cards are on the table: Every Democrat in the House supports removing Trump from office and not waiting until November 2020 to have an election.

What’s more, in perhaps good news for Trump, he lost zero Republicans. The GOP is unified behind its president. Impeachment being partisan is an optics win for Trump, as it feeds his narrative that the Democrats are power-hungry and cannot beat him at the ballot box, so they are using extraordinary measures to attempt to seize the office by force.....snip~

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-to-proceed-with-impeachment-of-donald-trump/

You need to read the lil print.

 

Which you think means people support Donald Trump? What does Donald Trump have to do with conservative media? He's not a conservative and never has been. I've even seen conservative media icons that are critical of him, not supportive.

Most of which occurred before evidence of his corruption was made public at the end of September.

I thought polling was bad?

Unless the Senate stipulates that Donald Trump cannot again run for president(and that's assuming they convict him), he could still run in 2020. Getting removed from office doesn't automatically bar you from holding that office in the future if you haven't reached your term limit.

The reason that I support the impeachment process is that we cannot just let a sitting president do whatever he wants on the basis that he was elected by the will of the people. Even presidents have to follow the rules, though you don't seem to think so.

So only polling that gives you answers you want is trustable?

 

Wasn't it all declassified in 2007?

 

Every Democrat in the House supports an investigation to determine if impeachment is warranted. If or when they vote on actual articles of impeachment, then you can make that claim.

Republicans didn't need to vote with the Democrats in order to pass the resolution so why would they risk breaking from their party to do so? They wouldn't for the same reason that 2 Democrats voted against it. Their votes were not needed. Republicans who don't support him can continue not supporting him without having to go on record for it. That's politics.

 

That is a bogus thread title.... It's going to get changed...

Also, from your OP - Three Republicans and one Democrat did not cast a vote.

So All R's didn't vote against it.. I find that interesting..

But your point is made... they don't want private hearings and they don't want public hearings... not sure what's left...

 

No hearings.

A lot of people think impeaching Trump is a waste of time, and many of them think so because they dont think he did anything wrong.

And yet, some of us who think that are so sick and tired of our Reps using the floor of Congress to lie with impunity that we welcome public hearings only because we want to hear what these folks are willing to say under oath. Not because we think what they'll say damns Trump (it might, i doubt it), but because they'll either have to out themselves as having lied before, or because they'll purjor themselves and we can finally be rid of them.

Its unfortunate that the truth can be held hostage like this to force an agenda, but the alternative (limiting speech on the floor of congress) would be worse.

So here we go... free tickets to the circus.

 

polls on impeachment in those swing states also say they're against impeachment too per cnn

 

al green

 

I almost expect Trump to come forward soon with "yes, I did it, but it's not illegal."

 

only playing moderator when its i republican story and not doing so with a Democrat story says it all

 

Yes, before the public hearing.
Depending on the evidence presented it may increase or decrease.

 

it'll increase most likely through the house part of this and then go back to where it was after the Senate part (unless democrats through the media can put enough pressure and bluff the Republican Senators into not fighting at all)