Protesting Police Violence Is Critical. But Why Are the Social Distance Shamers Suddenly So Quiet?

They're absolutely not the same, they're as uniquely individual as the rest of us. That doesn't change what they are doing to the cities though.

 

Of course they are for anyone not using double standards. Otherwise there is absolutely no reason to riot over a cop in one city, if you aren't in that city. Not to worry, all these scumbag looters/protesters don't care about that, they want what's owed them by the man or to appease their pathetic notions of white guilt. All of them are trash...

 

Here in Florida we're just starting to see the impact of our re-opening, 5 straight days of 1000+ new cases per day a marked upward trend from previous 600-800 range days. Our governor is of course ignoring it and denying the connection to his re-open efforts. It took about 7 to 10 days to see the impacts of our re-opening crusade and we're right on track with this massive surge. So I'd say we need about 2 weeks to see the impact of these riots, however it will surely be difficult to tell seeing as how so many re-opening efforts were occurring at the same time.

 

I think organizers failed to add reminders about distancing and wearing masks. It may be difficult for them to transition to being spokespersons with serious political clout if they don't acknowledge the liberal consensus around fighting COVID-19.

So, their message on the most important issue of the day is, "We're so pissed off, we can't consider the consequences of the way we're protesting." Maybe the organizers aren't ready for prime time.

How are liberals going to reimpose self-isolating if new cases of the virus take off after protestors ignored containment efforts? I don't think Trump had a chance before the protests, and now he faces a potentially split liberal opposition. If Trump wins reelection, the chance for meaningful social reform will be lost until a future time.

What's your message to hospital workers risking their health, and the health of their family, to care for COVID-19 patients? Are you sending them flowers, too?

 

How utterly absurd of you to claim I'm mocking people with the death of 100,000 Americans. I've been advocating we take action to contain the virus as they have in British Columbia (5m people).



Multiply the numbers above by 66 to see where we could be now. Not 100,000 dead but 11,000 dead instead. How about Australia (25m people)? 102 dead. If they were our size, they'd have under 1,500 dead.



British Columbia is particularly instructive for us because they were hit with nursing home deaths and got a handle on their mistakes.

 

Hey, can you post that graph of british Columbia a couple more times in case someone missed it?

 

I've never said otherwise. While I sympathise with the cause, when they show video of a crowd of protesters, all I see is a target-rich environment for COVID-19. I expect spikes in infection rates to start today or tomorrow. We'll see.

And yes, there were small hot spots created around quite a few of the Lansing protesters, too. I'll try to find a link for that. Meanwhile, compare pictures: George Floyd protesters are almost all wearing masks, but the previous anti-lockdown protesters were not. No social distancing from either group.

 

let me know when you want to respond to my actual quote, instead of this straw-man crap.

 

Where did I call all of the police bad guys? I said no such thing, ever.

I'm saying that very few of the protesters were rioters, that most rioters and looters were apolitical opportunists out to smash and grab, using the protests as cover. Why do you think the violence has stopped? Not just because of police and NG troops ... marchers began stopping them, even dragging them to the nearest group of cops. And who do you think was out there, in cities all over the country, sweeping up broken glass and washing off graffiti the next morning? The protesters.

 

Well, everyone already knows this.



As the quote in the OP point out, it's not just the Mask Nazis at MSNPC and elsewhere the media, it's the ones in government.

On Memorial Day weekend the Democratic governor of Virginia got caught violating the social distancing and masking rules he imposed on the unessential masses.

The past two weeks have only taken the BS to a whole new level.

In many parts of the country, this game is OVER.

 

No flowers for hospital workers, just more masks and gowns and gloves. They're going to need them soon, and even more this fall. If the COVID-19 pandemic follows the pattern of the 1918 Spanish flu, then it's just getting started, and the Trump administration is doing nothing to prepare.

 

Alrighty then. I was going to let your bullcrap "haircuts" straw man slide, but, if you insist.

Reducing the desire to reopen the economy to the straw-man of "haircuts" is pretty despicable.

Is that all people under lockdown are suffering? A bad hair day?

Is it really as frivolous as haircuts, or is their far more at stake when people's livelihoods and life's work is put under lockdown?

And then maybe you can explain to us how rioting and destroying people's livelihoods and life's work is "justice" and "patriotic".

 

In reality, many of the protesters and rioters are the same people.

A lot of us know that, while the rest pretend otherwise...

 

There wasn't any one protesting a desire for haircuts and to go out to eat? Seems like the vast majority of signs pointed to that as the running theme.

Ultimately however, based on what I saw these last few weeks, more people are willing to risk it to protest injustice then to risk it for the economy.
If you don't understand why you understand american values.

 

No, that was a despicable straw man created by people like yourself who wanted to ignore and ridicule the very real suffering that lockdowns have caused, and will continue to cause.

It's disgusting, and you should apologize for it.

How is rioting, destroying people's livelihoods, and even murdering people, demonstrating American values and stopping injustice?

 

I guess it bothers you Trumpers, so here it is...



How about one of your leader? Which one do ya like best?

 

No lockdown social distancing has worked in British Columbia and their economy is reopening.



We're opening too soon in many states.

So, if you get COVID-19, you won't ask health care workers to risk their lives taking care of you--right?

And what makes you think people are going back to business-as-usual in the middle of a pandemic?





You can get people out to work, but can you make them go shopping if the pandemic continues or gets worse?

 

That's the Trump crowd fer ya.

 

If the economy was their platform they should have been more vocal about it - based on what I saw in St. Paul they wanted to go to the restaurants and get haircuts.

To be clear, you want me to apologize for taking protesters at there word based on the signs they displayed, but you willingly conflate peaceful protesters with rioters and looters?

At first I didn't think you understood what it is to be an American, now I don't think you understand what it is to be a human being!

Still, my point stands- by number of protesters America values Justice more then the Economy.

 

You do know, I suppose, by far the vast majority of protestors were peaceful. The people looting and burning should be arrested, prosecuted, and sent to jail.

 

But there were plenty who weren't peaceful, and they did plenty of damage. You do know this I suppose?

 

No, there weren't "plenty who weren't peaceful." We don't even know the politics of looters and those setting fires.

 

We're back to the fantasy that it was right wing boogaloo Nazis, are we?

 

Very well-stated. I believe people cannot grasp just how many people (of ALL races) are basically abused within the system. I have held positions that made me "obligated reporter" and it was torture. At this time, nobody could convince me to call the authorities to "help" especially when working with the poor who are stuck with no "voice" by the mainstream.

 

Nihilist thugs who loot and burn have nothing to do with the peaceful protestors. I don't think these thugs...



... are representative of most Trumpers.