GOP Senator Ben Sasse says he would "consider" impeachment articles brought by House

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  1. Golem

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    "The House, if they come together and have a process, I will definitely consider whatever articles they might move," Sasse said in an interview with "CBS This Morning" on Friday.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-impeachment-ben-sasse-consider-senate/
    Of course this President should be removed! Even if only to underline that the events of January 6 were absolutely and categorically inacceptable.

    But it's also in the political interest of the GOP. I mean, they need to separate themselves from Trump, or their Party will likely not be winning any contested election again in the foreseeable future. And this will allow them to hide the fact that they are complicit in all of this because of the fact that they didn't vote to remove a year ago.
     
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    The firewall is crumbling..... Which GOP Senator will be next in line to kick Trump to the curb?
     
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    The Breaking News is that the Proposed Article will be the Charge of:

    "Incitement of an Insurrection".

    And, it will be introduced Monday.

    And, here is the kicker:

    Pelosi is thinking THIS:

    1) There is ZERO Chance of a Senate Trial happening during Trump's Term

    2) BUT, it would force ALL of the GOP House Members (including the Newly-Elected members) to go ON RECORD with that vote.

    (A vote that will stick with them for the rest of their political careers).

    Imagine being On Record as Voting NOT to punish someone who Incited an Insurrection?

    (A NO vote on this 2nd Impeachment could single-handedly sink any GOP Candidate in a contested swing district).

    Sounds like Great Strategy.

    And, of course, giving Trump the Historical Stain of being Impeached Twice.

    Win/Win all the way around.
     
  4. Golem

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    I heard Val Demings (who was part of the Impeachment Team last year) say a couple of hours ago that it would be next Wednesday. Is the news that it will be Monday more recent?

    It makes more sense that it would be Monday.
     
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    We should know where we are Wednesday when this goes to the Senate. I figure Trump will be impeached Tuesday.

    Murkowski’s called for his removal but we’ll see where they really stand Wednesday.

    An overwhelming pressure should be brought to get this done Wednesday followed by a resignation push in the House and Senate.
     
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    Wow, more political idiocy from the democrats who should be preparing to lead the nation, not conducting another witch hunt.

    Are they seriously going to do this another four years?
     
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    I doubt you'll get to 17 of them by Jan 20. That said if anyone should want Trump out it should be the GOP Senate. He just single handedly doomed them to irrelevance for 4 years for an ego trip.
     
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    I think you'd get a similar response from a lot of Congressional GOPers right now, but not because they'd really be open the to idea. The left is rabid right now, they've got a hot 'terrorist' branding iron in hand and they're out for blood. Its just not safe for anyone to disagree with them right now.
     
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    Alaska's Lisa Murkowski

    "People who were there to riot and who were encouraged that very morning by their president," she told the public media station. "Yes, I think he was responsible."

    https://www.npr.org/sections/congre...-sen-lisa-murkowski-calls-for-trump-to-resign

    "I think he should leave. He said he's not going to show up," she continued. "He's not going to appear at the inauguration. He hasn't been focused on what is going on with COVID. He's either been golfing or he's been inside the Oval Office fuming and throwing every single person who has been loyal and faithful to him under the bus, starting with the vice president. He doesn't want to stay there. He only wants to stay there for the title. He only wants to stay there for his ego. He needs to get out. He needs to do the good thing, but I don't think he's capable of doing a good thing."
     
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    It's true that the timeline, esp. w/ McConnell still setting the schedule, is not conducive towards getting it done before the 20th. But I've heard it contended that merely having an already passed article of impeachment at the ready, would discourage Trump from any more rash acts. Also, though I'm going by another poster's assertion, just because Trump is out of office would not prevent or stop a Senate trial.
     
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    And that may not have been the most interesting thing in that article

    SNIP
    "If the Republican Party has become nothing more than the party of Trump, I sincerely question whether this is the party for me."
    ENDSNIP

    It's probably just happy talk, but if you could get Murkowski to go Independent and perhaps caucus with the D's (like her bestie Bernie), that could change a lot of dynamics for the next couple of years...
     
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    Have you had a complete rethinking of transitions, in the last few days? Do you remember this, from the thread, Why is Trump sabotaging the Transition?

     
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    Ben Sasse was never part of the firewall, if you know anything about his relationship with President Trump. Sasse hates him.
     
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    I wish they had a picture of a mic drop on here....

    Well done...
     
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    Hopefully, Pence is using this weekend to get the gang together to enact the 25th Amendment.
    Which is why nobody is hearing anything from him about anything.
     
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    To a point. She isn't going to pass Medicare for All or the Green New Deal, but having her detached from the GOP might make a few things like confirmations run easier. Similarly Collins & even Romney might be persuaded to engage in some bipartisanship.
     
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    Trump's behaviour since election day is how his Presidency will be remembered. He will be the guy who refused to accept the result, cost his party the Senate and then whipped up a mob that stormed the Capitol building.

    You only have to read the feeble attempts by his supporters to defend this to know that they know it too. He will be the 'sore loser' President whose supporters murdered a cop who was trying to protect the great symbol of the American Republic. He will be the guy who spent months losing court cases, cause a riot & then slunk off to his millionaire's estate rather than see his opponent inaugurated.

    No opponent of Trump in their wildest dreams could have written a script like this, let alone hoped for it.
     
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    Exactly. And if we can pick up a few more Senate votes than last time - Murkowski, Sasse, Collins, perhaps a few others - that would be a moral victory, to get to a majority of Senators voting for removal.
     
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    Exactly so what's his problem?

    Why hasn't he left the basement yet.

    Are those what flavor ice cream do you like getting to tough for him?
     
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    Is putting together a comprehensible English sentence, "too tough" for you?

    You were saying, just a month ago, that all Biden should need for the transition for his entire, new, Administration to take over running the government, is a couple of hours. Now, you're complaining that the Democrats in Congress, most of whom have been there up 'til now, are irresponsible to not be using their time preparing for continuing to do more of what they have been doing?

    Doesn't seem very honest, coming from a good church-girl, like yourself.
     
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    No, I said they are irresponsible for not telling us what they are planning.

    You have zero interest in what kind of legislation, if any, they are working on?
     
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    Just take a look, for a preview, of the hundred(s?) of bills passed by the House this past year but never taken up by the Senate.
     
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    What does that have to do with my point about Biden?
     
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    What does Biden have to do with articles of impeachment, or an impeachment proceding?
     
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    it's possible enough republicans in the Senate would sign on, I doubt they want Trump running in 2024 either, it would be another huge loss for the party
     
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