Time to punish CCP?

Covid-19's an engineered virus and WHO investigators are denied access to crucial sites.


The head of research into corona viruses at the WIV and is thought to have created Covid-19 and made it able to infect humans.


The head of the CCP.

A crime against humanity perpetrated at the state level, so that state must be bought to justice for the outbreak of Covid-19, or there is no justice and they'd have gotten away with it.

 

Either leaked through incompetence or released against humanity, the CCP are liable and should not be above justice for this.

 

My understanding is that the Chinese covered up the corvid out of fear that the world, and particularly the Trump Administration which had been demonstrably hostile to them, would do what they in fact have done and blame it all on them. You, therefore, need better proof if you are to present a credible case. Do you have any?

 

What is your evidence that Covid 19 is an "engineered" virus?

 

they didn't limit, NBC got access to the lab, also 2018 american visit the lab too. imagine if we allow CCP to visit one of our viral lab, there will be hesitation. you honestly think if china request to access our viral lab, we just say, yea come in and check it out lol. if you want to claim its man made get your prove from well known source, not tabloid news. so far all well known organization(CDC etc) debunk its man made. I trust those source then some youtube channel

not sure where u get the data, but almost all virologist in the world debunk its made in lab, i trust them over pompeo.

the lab had american and other ppl work/inspect there before

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/inside-wuhan-lab-center-coronavirus-storm-n1236254

 

lol wion, its well know that channel is bias, and make exaggerate news. china fly over there is not news, they done it since early 2000s. air id zone is Not territorial space, anyone can fly over it, we do it, russia do it and china do it too. consider taiwan is about 100mi from china, its air id zone overlap into china mainland.

 

Common sense.

 

More BS. Just pictures and no link.
You're still making stuff up.

 

Common sense uses facts to draw conclusions.

Common sense doesn't make stuff up without a shred of evidence. That falls into conspiracy theory. And this thread, so far, is nothing but conspiracy theory, which it seems you bought into.
Nope, not common sense.

 

It wasn't a lab. It was a marketplace in Wuhan where dogs and bats are sold as Chinese food.

 

You believe that story?

Even if that story was correct, why is it that that wet market is also restricted from WHO investigators? Hmmm?
Can you answer this thread that?

Not to mention who's story it is, the CCP's, they're Communist.
Do you think the CCP would ever even admit it if it was engineered in a lab?

Ever heard of Occam's razor?
It means the simplest explanation is most often the correct one.

 

What makes you believe that the origin of Coronavirus isn't investigated?
Please look here: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03402-1

 

Politics.
The CCP aren't exactly making it easy and this team in China now won't even look into the lab theory because they were finally allowed in after a long delay from months of negotiating with the CCP.

 

The CCP lab theory is conspiracy BS since China itself was hit first by the Coronavirus.

 

It was leaked due to incompetence?
You mean the same China who practises organ harvesting against its own people?
Which giant hole would you like me to blow through that reason the lab theory is bs with?

 

Do you really think virus designers are that stupid?

I agree with you that China is a communist rogue state. But there's no evidence that Coronavirus came from a laboratory.

 

Why would we blame it on anyone else? China is the source of the virus.

 

Sadly, you know no more about it than I do. Your opinion is not more valid than mine. In fact it is less so. The virus originated a few blocks from a virology laboratory. Common sense.

 

You do understand that Spain had nothing to do with the Spanish flu, don't you?

The disease was first NOTICED in China and may have "jumped" to humans from bats that were there. That in no way means they were responsible for the disease, they suffered from it right along with everyone else. (And if we had done what they did we would have had MAYBE 50,000 deaths, tops)

I guess you think we should put trade sanctions on the nations of West Africa, since most Hurricanes come from there, right?

 

OK sea lawyer. Have you noticed that it was first discovered a few blocks from a virology lab? Hurricanes come from the South Atlantic Ocean, not from West African countries. If you want to put trade restrictions on the ocean, have at it.

 

China's only argument isn't even a defence. Because of world war, only neutral Spain reported the Spanish flu.
China's guilty of the same, because at first, China didn't report Covid-19 and so it was able to spread.
But saying 'well they did it too' doesn't excuse not doing the right thing.

Also, you're going on a bit crazy with that statement refusing to accept what is known that it started in China; the way you post, it's like it started everywhere BUT China.

All this thread serves to do is to tell me that it's not yet time to punish the CCP for the outbreak of Covid-19 from a Wuhan lab because we need evidence first, evidence the CCP are making it hard to collect given their involvement and control of the investigation.

You make the mistake @Aleksander Ulyanov in thinking this thread is here to debate if it came from that lab in Wuhan - it's not. This thread is here to talk about how to punish the CCP for the outbreak and when's the time to.

If you want to keep peddling the same CCP lines, this is not the thread to do so.

 

Yes, look at Chernobyl; not only can experts be incompetent leading to mass destruction, they're also afraid to admit wrong doing falsifying data and covering things up that cast shadows of doubt over their abilities.
Yes, I believe Wuhan virus designers could totally be that stupid as to leak their virus by accident, and don't ever tell me they can't when we all know Chernobyl wasn't exactly capable or free to admit failure too.

 

Calling it the China Virus I feel is bad as it implicates Taiwan.
Calling it the CCP Virus makes a lot more sense and is apt.
This name also serves to connect the CCP to the outbreak of this virus and to make the CCP accountable for this virus.

 

You know nothing and he knows nothing, what is twice times zero?

How in the hell do you know where it originated anyway? The virology lab was just the first place it was NOTICED (and since it's a virology lab that's a big surprise, right?)

You Trumpists are all the same. You don't give a flying fandango about anything but finding someone to BLAME for something and hopefully it will be someone you hate, (and since you hate everybody that's not too hard.) Meanwhile, the virus is killing people left and right but **** em they're old anyway.

You wanna know what "herd immunity" really means? It's from commercial veterinary practice not human epidemiology at all. It means all the subjects who could die from the disease are dead and only the resistant ones are left. It's what Trump wanted at first and what Trumpists have wanted all along since a major part of Trumpist ideology is to kill off the "weak"

 

This thread is here to bash Chinese, for no other reason. Their guilt is not even a matter of argument, you say so yourself. The disease came from China and Trump doesn't like the Chinese, so lets's bash them.

Trumpists are truly disgusting. Their whole idea of foreign policy is who do we hold accountable for all our problems and bash next. "America First" means "Bash Everyone But America" and then wonder why the rest of the world hates us and won't give us help when we need it.

And in any case, **** it, he lost and is probably going to jail for a long time. Nobody has to kiss his fat ass anymore but then again some people LIKE doing that.