'Tell Me Again, Why is showing Voter I.D. Considered Voter Suppression'!

So, do you believe in licensing cars, nuclear wastes and quantities of hazardous materials?

 

How if I can do it same day? What records? And I apparently know more about how elections work than you.

So what?

 

I grew up in the Democrat segregationists South I know full well about the history.
Lack of rebuttal noted.

 

What records? If there is no indentification required, your "record" what is to prevent me from walking into multiple polling places, same day registering under a new name or under someone else who I know is not voting that day and voting?

 

How would they stop me? On what basis would they?

 

So you can't refute what I said and make the phony "strawman" claim. YOU are the one presenting the stawman "well that just won't happen" argument.

Again what is to stop me from doing so?

 

If there is no evidence of fraud as you say, you don't wait until there is to legitimize the elections. As an American citizen, you should be glad to help making sure that our elections are legitimate and as lawful as possible. Asking someone to prove who they are is a small request that should be easily met. You are suggesting that we wait until we have ample evidence of election fraud before we do anything about it. That's like saying I will leave my house unlocked when I'm not home until it gets broken into, then I'll do something to protect it.

 

Exactly, you can be Jim Smith at one polling location, registering the same day, and Dan Smith at another, registering the same day. Asking you to prove who you are seems racist to dems.

 

Marxism has the idea of a "utopian collective" because there is an elite national governing force that knows what is best for us. That seems to be exactly what the left has in mind .I would say the America first policies supports strong families, local government control, as in elections, and an equal playing field for every color. We know best what to do with our own money.

 

I'm not a big fan of colonial rule. I have a reasonable idea of your island government, and that is obviously your choice under your democracy.

But, the idea that there is a state sized location almost entirely inhabited by 3 million American citizens under US federal law, but who have no representation in any of that law is something I find offensive.

 

This is just plain lack of understanding of government.

We are a Republic, because the supreme power is held by the people - either directly or through elected representatives, including the highest office.

This idea that we can't be a democracy because we are a republic is just total ignorance spewed most commonly by the right wing - which VERY clearly HATES democracy.

 

In the US, WE THE PEOPLE are the supreme power.

What the "left" has in mind is:

- free and fair elections in which all citizens may participate without assault by those who don't want them to vote (the GOP)

- a congress that has the capability of being adults including negotiating and making compromise such as our founders designed - because with out that, there isn't a reason for having a congress in the first place.

 

I would point out that the farther we move from free and fair elections, the closer we come to the Marxist ideal of having an governing aristocracy that thinks they know better than we do.

America First is one of the principle sources of white supremacy.

As for decision making, America First is a statement restricting what we see as best. It's an ASSAULT on ALL decision making that doesn't follow specific limitations.

 

I pointed out that your argument in your post was based on a well known fallacy.

You either need to find some other arugment or abandon your position, please.

As for your last statement, you'll have to state what it is that you propose to do.

 

This is just laughable!

YES, America is ineterested in our constitution, which identifies how federal leadership is organized (among other things). It states that we the people get to vote for our representation.

There isn't anything Marxist about our democracy. - UNLESS those who think they know better decide to assault our democracy.

THAT is where the problem you identify comes in.

It comes in when the GOP decides that only certain people should have easy access to the polls.

That is NOT something that Americans should allow.

It IS the destruction of our very form of government.

 

Of course there is none. Going around Willy milky trying to stop imaginary situations is ridiculous.

Imposing restrictions during voting time after they have already registered is only implored to limit participation. We don’t do this any-other time. Once you are required to register fire appointments, there is minimal to no more repeating the process. Getting medical treatment, to service for your finances to service for your car

Poor analogy. Legal Voting by anyone else has no affect on you except politically which is what this is all about. Ruling minorities try this stuff all the time in third world countries and fascist regimes.

 

Well, the history of colonialism is one of power, corruption and exploitation.

But, suggesting that is what the "left" wants is just plain partisan political crap.

Puerto Rico is under the rule of our federal government in which Puerto Rico has NO representation. The "left" has no interest in that.

Among other things, that is taxation without representation.

Every Puerto Rican is a full American citizen who could vote in our federal elections - IF they weren't living in Puerto Rico, where we do not allow people to vote on issues that have direct effect on Puerto Rico.

If a Puerto Rican moved to Washington, DC, they could vote for our president, as they are full American citizens. But, they could not vote for congressional representation, because Washington, DC has NO congressional representation. US citizens of Washington, DC are taxed WITHOUT representation.

How ironic that those living in the very seat of governemnt of the USA still have the same issue that is considered so serious as to justify our revolution!!

If a Puerto Rican moved to Wyoming, they could also vote for congress (and in fact would have more influence than any US citizen living in any other part of the world, including any other state of the US, interestingly enough)

We need to move toward the kind of equaltiy that our constitution demands.

We need to support stuff like being allowed to vote and work against stuff like taxation without representation.

 

Tell us exactly how you can walk into multiple voting places you haven’t registered in. You enjoy committing federal crimes ?
Same day registration ? You need an ID for that and every place not your resident, you commit a federal crime by giving false information they can easily check on line. You have to be making this **** up. If it’s so easy, why aren’t you do ing it.....because it isn’t easy. Do people normally walk around looking for easy ways to spend ten years in jail ?

 

My state mails a ballot to EVERY registered voter. That ballot is id'd to me, so nobody else can use it. Validation is based on my signature - like checks at the bank.

Please tell me ONE POSSIBLE WAY that could lead to voter fraud here in WA.

BTW, this is true in other states, too.

 

Amen. That kind of election crime is trivial to detect and prosecute.

The GOP has NO EXCUSE for their assault on our democracy - the centralmost premise of our form of government.

 

Exactly. This people who make up sht are doing it for one reason; voter suppression.

 

No one is making anything up. And what's most ironic is that the dems here are assuming the people who can't read, can't use the internet, can't drive, can't get an ID are always democrats. Interesting.

 

Well, if you haven’t noticed, you’re allowed to drive every day, and use the internet everyday without showing your license. The only time you do, is when you’re asked for it. In voting, it’s when you register. So, you can use your car and computer without presenting your license if you aren’t asked....just like voting.

 

So why it we have the Electoral College vote and not the popular vote?