Arizona Republicans to begin auditing 2020 ballots

I have never heard or read of the book but with a quick search it appears that it is referencing why racism is so difficult for white people in the US to discuss.

Again, haven’t read it.

Can you reference a specific part that says all whites are racist?

 

By partisans who don't know what they are doing who have an agenda, not to mention lacking organization and clear authority and that
"Lin Wood" and OAN, are behind it all, partisan conspiracy theorists who don't know **** from shinola, I'd say it's a foggy mess.

 

Here are a bunch of quotes and a good explanation. As opposed to me saying the same thing on here.

https://thelogicalliberal.com/2020/06/13/white-fragility/

 

The hyperbole is strong with this one

 

His statement is 100% accurate.

The company hired has no experience at all in doing an audit.

The company that was hired is a proud supporter of "Stop the steal".

The only press allowed in is OAN.

The company hired has already been busted for handing out blue pens which can be used to alter a ballot before being scanned.

Not a single person form the "other side" is allowed to observe the audit.

This would be like asking Al Capone to audit his own taxes.

 

Lol so you want the Republican Party to WHOLLY foot the bill, but you want democrats to be allowed access?

Furthermore, anyone, including media and democrats can sign up to be an observer.

Also the blue pens were removed before any ballots were taken out of boxes. That’s from the same reporter who said something about the blue pens in the first place.

And moreover, if they find large scale fraud it’s completely verifiable. And unlike the democrats, the republicans will allow people to check behind them without lawsuit after lawsuit.

 

I thought your goal was for the truth of the election to come out. But now we know that is not true since that cannot happen when only one side is doing the audit.

Why were they handed out in the first place and how do we know that they have all been given back? This is what happens when you pick your company based on their political view and not their actual experience.

Do you choose your doctor and mechanic and HAVC based upon their political views or based upon their experience in the field?

And on what do you base it will be "completely verifiable" and more so, on what do you base your claim they will give full access to the Dems?

 

This “recount” is a joke, and the ULTIMATE in hypocrisy.

All you need to know is that in the “re-count” they are not allowing observers...........But wait, I thought that was the problem in the original election.....wasn't it righties ?

 

This audit shall hence forth be called the “keep the lie alive audit”

 

I find myself wondering if they live the rest of their lives like this.

I mean do they go "so, you have never actually fixed a car before but you voted for Trump, sure go ahead and fix my brakes."

Or..."so, you have never actually treated a patient before but you voted for Trump, sure go ahead and fix my torn ligament"

 

Democrats worry their little shinnanigans are going to be exposed.

 

Do you mean like when Al Gore only wanted three counties in FL reviewed?

 

Fascism is the kissing cousin of communism in the scheme of things. It's why they fight each other so brutally. In the end, they are both authoritarians who demand they are the only one..

 

Then why do Republicans endorse it?

 

The democrats can pay for a signature verification recount if they’d like. The idea that an audit can’t be done properly without the other side witnessing it simply is not true.

The same person who complained about the pens also stated they removed said pens before the ballots were open. If you believed her original claim then on what grounds do you refute her second claim?

And the ENTIRE point of the audit is to find evidence of fraud. If evidence is found are you under the impression they’re not going to let anyone see it? That would defeat the ENTIRE purpose.

 

Would you trust an audit done just by the Dems alone?

Would you be good with states counting votes with people from just one party doing all the counting and nobody watching them?

No, the ENTIRE point of the audit is to sow more doubt and mistrust in the election system.

 

No I would demand a full signature verification recount if their audits came out and said there was fraud. Just like the democrats should do. But they won’t. Because they don’t want to uncover more fraud.

I don’t understand your concern. Let’s assume the republicans find large scale fraud. All you have to do is audit the same ballots/envelopes to determine if the fraud is legitimate. If it’s not found, each side can present their evidence.

If the republicans cheated that will be shown. If not, the democrats fraud will be shown. And if no fraud is found then great. What’s the problem?

 

Each side does their own count and each side comes out to a different conclusion...which will happen without a doubt.

Now people have even less faith in the system than before and there is still ZERO evidence of widespread voter fraud.

The only outcome of this audit is further eroding the faith of the people in the election system. Which oddly enough was the goal of a certain country according to the Senate Republican report on the 2016 election.

 

Then both sides present their evidence. If the republicans say they found massive fraud produce the evidence, which they should be able to do. If they can then the democrats better refute it with their own evidence. But one of them has to be wrong.

 

Yes, one does have to be wrong.

But you and millions upon millions like you will never, ever, ever believe anything the other side tells you, so what difference does it make if they present evidence or not?

We had a jury trial where both sides produced evidence recently and you rejected the outcome arrived by the only group to hear it all.

This will be no different.

 

No what we want is verification of the vote. We want to know that the democrats didn’t use the massive mail in voting they pushed for to defraud the vote. The only way to do so is to have a signature verification recount which the democrats have fought tooth and nail to stop at every turn, in every state.

If you believe someone has cheated and there is a way to verify whether or not they cheated and they fight you tooth and nail to prohibit you from using that method of verification...

Would you believe they were being honest or would that further your belief that they had something to hide?

 

Answer me honestly....

If this company says they found massive voter fraud and the Dems say they did not and both offer their "evidence" is there any chance in hell you will believe the Dems?

 

If the republicans can’t produce evidence of their claims then yes. If they can, then I won’t believe the democrats unless they can refute it.

I trust numbers and evidence. Not people. People lie. People have ulterior motives. Evidence does not.

 

Fair enough.

One last question if you do not mind...lets pretend that this company finds no evidence of widespread voter fraud in their audit, will you then be satisfied with the integrity of the 2020 election?

 

Let me ask you a similar questions. If the republicans produce evidence of their claims of large scale fraud and the democrats are incapable of refuting it, will you believe the republicans then?