January 6, 2021

- There were closed signs posted when insurrectionist broke into the Capitol.
- The insurectionists were armed with baseball bats, flag poles, sledge hammers, claw hammers, crow bars, table legs and many other, very, lethal weapons.
- The Capitol Police and Metro Police were outnumbered 60 to 1.
- The Capitol Police did not let the insurrectionists into the Capitol, once the Capitol had been breached and recognizing that they were way out numbered some Capitol Police did abandon their positions and fell back.
- A congressmen that has called the insurrection "a visit" was caught on tape helping reinforce the barricade to the House Chamber with obvious fear in his eyes.
- Ashli Babbit was not executed, she was shot once as she was jumping through the window of the doors to the "Speakers Lobby" where, within feet, members of Congress were being evacuated.
- The doors to the Speakers Lobby and the barricade behind them were the last line of defense between Congress People being evacuated and the manic mob of insurrectionists.
- The folowing video shows that from the begining the insurrectionist attack was anything but peaceful; "the siege left widespread vandalism, more than 50 police officers were injured and 5 people died".

 

How many of them have been charged with insurrection?

 

So far, it appears, the U.S. Attorney has been very lenient.

 

Not really, this thread was meant to clear up some of the misconceptions of January 6th that seem to keep getting posted every day. For instance, I'm sure you'd be first in line to agree with someone posting that Ashli Babbitt was a victim of murder; she wasn't.

 

So if their plan was rebellion against the government as you claim. Why didn’t they use guns?

 

I watched 4 minutes of your video, I saw no closed sign and no weapons you claimed they had, care to point out a time stamp?

Guess why no one is charged with 'insurrection'?

 

It becomes obvious, as you watch the video, that some of the insurrectionist of 1/6 planned to interfere with, and change if they could, the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. I call that rebellion, you may not. It's my understanding that it's very difficult to get guns into D.C. But that's not the point of the OP, IF you watch the video, you will see that, contrary to what's been posted here, those bullet points are the truth.

 

False. Your assertion is that they attempted to overthrow the government.

Please provide me ANY example of the overthrow of a government performed by the people who had access to firearms but did not use them.

It’s never happened and didn’t happen on Jan 6. If they wanted to invade the capitol and overthrow the government, they had the means and the ability to do so. They could have invaded the capitol and done anything they wanted and there would have been no one there who could have stopped them in time.

Your assertion is preposterous.

 

Are we still claiming an officer was murdered with a fire extinguisher or have we officially wiped that egg of the left's face?

 

Here is what ACTUALLY happened.

A large group of people felt like they were cheated out of their votes. They went to the capitol to protest. Emotions ran high and overtook them and a large group rushed the capitol grounds, caused property damage and a smaller group of them went too far, overstepped a boundary they shouldn’t have and one of them paid the price and they all stopped and went home.

That’s what happened. To paint it as some sort of a planned and coordinated government coup is laughably absurd.

 

LOL, abandoned their positions and fell back?

How about opening the locked outside doors and holding them open to let people in on video.

Them selfies sure are dangerous weapons!

 

I never said "overthrow" in fact, I just put up some bullet points contrary to what's been posted here. If you are taking umbridge to my calling them insurrectionists or calling 1/6 and insurrection here's the definition.

It sure looks like a "violent uprising" to me.

 

Then please explain to me how that’s any different than any other riot we have seen in the past three years during the BLM, Floyd riots.

Especially the ones in Portland where they took aim at a government courthouse and tried to burn it down with people inside of it, for 150+ nights. Where they showed up with shields, body armor, manufactured weapons and IED’s they were throwing at innocents and officers.

 

Actually, IF you watch the video, the door in question was being held by Capitol police until the insurrectionists came in from behind and opened it. And then it was held open by an insurrectionist who was taking a day off from his job as an active duty military officer.

 

I'm not addressing any other riot in my op.

 

That’s fine. I’m just trying to see if you’re consistent or not.

See as for myself I have no problem with calling the actions on Jan 6 a violent uprising. However, I also consider the rest of the riots a violent uprising worthy of the same condemnation.

Something tells me you don’t. In which case your faux outrage over Jan 6th is really inconsequential and the epitome of political hypocrisy.

 

OK, none of that counterdicts my OP. But I will say there is ample evidence that some groups did prior planning and coordination; but that's not what my OP is about.

 

LOL, sure. The alleged ‘insurrectionists’ were wearing capitol police uniforms.

You sure have bought into the official propaganda pretty hard. Go get a milkshake and take a day off.

 

No actually I think all the "violence" that's been happing in OUR Country should be "condemned"; I think you don't like the message so you are attacking the messenger.

 

Okay bro fine. You want to play that little game. That’s cool I’ll play.

This is the LEGAL definition of insurrection:

“The following is a case law defining Insurrection:

Insurrection means “a violent uprising by a group or movement acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers. An insurrection occurs where a movement acts to overthrow the constituted government and to take possession of its inherent powers.” [Younis Bros. & Co. v. Cigna Worldwide Ins. Co., 899 F. Supp. 1385, 1392-1393 (E.D. Pa. 1995)]”

Now given you have the ACTUAL definition. Would you like to correct your OP?

 

Watch the video.

 

Really? Can you show me any post of yours where you’ve done so?

Cause I just did a cursory search through your posting history and didn’t find any. Except of course your many posts about Jan 6.

Not ONE ****ING WORD about the left literally making IED’s and throwing them at innocents and officers. But god almighty you’re upset about Jan 6th. Boy howdy

 

This is where I got "MY" definition.

 

I've only posted 70 times and I don't think I've ever addressed the riots of 2020 other than to point out that much of the "rioting" was instigated by Right Wing extreemists which I supplied many supporting documents.