January 6, 2021

They'll insist on placing the egg back on their face.

 

I doubt you saw any video or pics of closed signs during the 2020 riots.

This has been addressed earlier in this thread but, "I" believe that no one has been charged with insurrection because their attempt failed.

I think a consensus has been reached that the insurrectionists didn't have guns, not for lack of trying but, because it's so hard to get guns into DC.

There were more than 9 thousand people out and inside the capitol on the 6th. I'll call bullshit on those kinds of numbers or porpotions happening in the 2020 riots.

IF you watch the video's, which apparently you have not, it's shown how the insurrectionists came in from behind through other access points and unlocked doors.

And it's on video, if you'll take the time to watch, that Congressman Andrew Clyde, with fear in his eyes assisted in errecting barriers to the house chambers then later claimed 1/6 was just like a normal visitors day.

Again, it's clearly on video that the insurrectionist are on one side of the doors to the Speakers Lobby and Congress people are on the other, just prior to Ashli Babbitt attempting to breach the doors and getting shot.

IBID - watch the video

On that we agree

Actually two people died during the riot, both ladies. One shot by plain clothes Capitol Police and the other trampled to death by fellow insurrectionists. Watch the video.

 

There is video showing the frenzied state of the insurrectionists outside Pelosi's lobby. It's apparent that the have no good intentions for Congress People and becomes even more so at the moment they are looking at Congress people through the doors.

 

everybody warned her they had guns drawn and pointed. she was just too intent on being the first one through. made it about six inches.

i will say she had bigger balls than these flipping oath keeper types.

 

Actually, for anyone else to have been jepordized by the shot to Babbitt they would have had to be hanging from the cieling.

Yes, it was close quarters; doors, rioters, congress folk were all withing 15-20 feet of each other.

She was and imminent threat to the Congress people in the Speakers lobby and he did not "take his time"; he came out from cover, took his shot and went back to cover.

 

the investigation is gonna be a dandy. republicans will question the capitol police and reveal blue lives don’t really matter to them. mccarthy crew in no-win situation here. outsmarted by pelosi.

 

The Op sure insisted on ignoring that question

 

Yeah...just a bunch of burned out hulks of buildings and boarded up windows and doors.

Tell yourself whatever you want. But just like attempted murder is charged for, so is insurrection.

Oh puhleeze. Do you really think those people don't own guns? It might be hard to buy a gun in DC. But its not hard to bring one into DC.

Actually the estimate is 30,000 people showed up. And only around 500-600 rioted.

I've seen many video's. I doubt I've seen them all. Just as I doubt you've seen them all.

Then surely you can link to it?

Actually the video with Ashli Babbit shows a hallway. On both sides of the doors.

Ashli was shot. Everyone else died due to medical concerns, per the medical examiners. No one died by being trampled to death. The following article was prior to when the ME finally came out with Sicknicks cause of death.

LINK: Capitol riot deaths: Cause of death released for 4 of 5 (not Sicknick) (usatoday.com)

Sicknick also died of natural causes as was later determined: LINK: Medical ruling: Capitol cop Sicknick died of natural causes (yahoo.com)

Video's don't always tell the whole truth.

 

So you haven't watched the video?

No, she was in a compromised situation, with no weapon at all. Furthermore, there were ample stairways surrounding the House chamber they could have retreated to instead, leading to the basement and an escape.

Their response to the rioters was pathetic and no excuse for murdering someone.

 

- You claimed to have seen "closed" signs; just say'n.

- I think the U.S. Attorney is purposely avoiding "insurrection", not that there wasn't any.

- I didn't say the didn't have gun's, I didn't say the tried to buy them in DC. I said guns are hard to get into DC, one of the insurrectionists was caught with a truck load of them; for example.

- NBC agrees with your 30K number.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ation-updates-n1252864/ncrd1252964#blogHeader

But the washington post confirms there were 9k attacking the Capitol (time stamp aprox. 2:05 on)

You really should watch the video to fully appreciate what an overwelming force Capitol Police faced.
(at time stamp 8:55 3400 people asre counted on the West side of the Capitol. At 12:10 2k people have attacked the East side of the capitol. At time stamp 13:50 9400K people out number officers 58 to 1. 14:40 remaing Capitol Police are surrounded and out numbered. At 16:00 they've been overwhelmed and "lost the line".)


(1:30 "The insurrection was the worst breach of Capitol security since the War of 1812". 1:15 "the mob came within feet of law makers and pence. 14:25 at least 300 rioters are inside the Capitol. 2:00 the Senate is evacuated. 3:00 CP Eugeen Goodman leads insurrectionists on a wild goose chase away from Senators, passing within 100 feet of Pence. 6:05 House: "The Capitol has been breached. 10:55 rioters reach "Speakers Lobby", coming within 60 feet of law makers. 14:15 "Ther's a gun, he's got a gun": Ashli Babbitt climbs through the window in the door leading to the Speakers Lobby where Congress people are being evacuted. 13:50 "today was a dark day in the history of the United States Capitol" -VP Pence..

38:45 Andrew Clyde helps baricade the House Chamber and later calls the insurrection a bold face lie. )

27:00 Ashli Babbitt and chorts begin the siege of the Speakers lobbly. 27:00 they see "the law makers escaping" and go manic. "28:20 "what happens next is graphic: Babbitt is shot.

32:50 "Tragically someone will die": Rosanne Boyland is trampled to death by her own insurrectionists.

3:30 Crowd is impowered by the belief they were empowered by the president.

38:45 "Andrew Clyde: "standing a few feet from rioters"

Video's don't "always" lie.

 

You're avoiding the point.

And why would they do that? That is the whole theme of the Democrats and leftist media.

You really think that they could catch 30,000 people with guns? Or even stop them all? And where's your link to your claim here?

Yes, I know.

None of your video's provided is longer than 18 minutes. Indeed they're both the same video. And the video does not show more than a 10 second clip (actually 7 seconds) of some people walking inside the building. And nothing else of what happened inside the building. So you did not provide evidence that Andrew Clyde helped barricade the House Chamber. But so what if he calls the insurrection a bold face lie? I don't call it an insurrection either. It was a riot. Not an insurrection. Additionally Rosanne Boyland died due to acute amphetamine intoxication. IE: Drug overdoes. Not trampled. I already provided evidence of that. Unless you are now saying that the ME lied?

And I didn't say that video's "always" lie. I said that they don't always tell the whole truth. They always tell the truth. They don't always tell the WHOLE truth. Because video's cannot capture everything.

 

And so:
None.
Says all that need be said.

 

you build a case to get the biggest fish. not the little maga boys. they work there way up to proud boys, oath keepers, stone then trump.

 

But you were wrong! The Congress people weren't "already" evacuated. Ashli Babbitt wasn't murdered. The Capitol Police faced and ovewhelming force. And Andrew Clyde is a lier.

 

I may be wrong on this. I have heard it reported both ways. Are you willing to admit that you were wrong on certain things also? Also you never did provide that link for your claim about someone being stopped with a truck load of guns.

Never said she was murdered. I said she was killed. There is a difference.

That usually happens in any riot. Just ask all the cops from last summer.

Something that you have yet to prove.

 

What does Stone have to do with this?

 

Apparently Stone was in a picture with one of them, so ergo he's GUILTY!!!!

Probably, if they investigated just a hair further, they could indict Kevin Bacon, too.

 

The notorious Alabama man who parked a pickup truck packed with bombs and guns near the US Capitol likely intended to violently attack elected officials
https://www.insider.com/truck-packed-with-bombs-and-guns-by-capitol-feds-say-2021-1

That was a bullet point of the OP

But you tried to minimize the threat the Capitol Police faced

I gave you a video of Andrew Clyde helping erect barriers in the House chamber, what more do you want?

 

You asked for specific time stamps of specific things, that was what I gave you.

 

""likely intended to violently attack elected officials""

From you own link.... He doesn't face charges related to entering the Capitol building, as other rioters have.

 

yep, anybody who hasn’t faced charges yet, never will. it’s over libs!

 

The point was it's not that easy to bring firearms into DC, looking for that link I found many where people were getting busted for onesy twosy weapons.

 

We can only hope.

 

about 30% of americans will be upset about the select committee doing the investigation. too bad for the trumpers they didn’t go along with a bipartisan commission. that would have been finished by 31dec. instead, they’re left with little control and it continuing on into midterm season.

brilliant strategy mccarthy lol
dude got played by an old lady.

 

It's as easy to being firearms into DC as it is Kennesaw GA.