At least 25 public schools, districts pushing kids' book featuring 'Whiteness' contract with devil:

We're talking about an ideology here. Getting rid of States is not going to fix this.

 

Don't know if or why liberals are seemingly ignoring the thread.

The idea teachers are telling white kids to be ashamed they're white is preposterous. I find it hard to believe anyone thinks this is being done.

Anyway, I can be "not nice" if provoked and I can assure you if I knew a teacher was saying white kids should be ashamed they're white, I would tell the teacher they had to stop IMMEDIATELY or I would have them up on an ethics charge with the union. I'm not the only teacher who would take similar action.

 

Then, it's up to the various Boards of Education. Personally, I don't think it's as much an ideology, as a behavioral science, stemming from sociology and evolutionary psychology. It spread into other fields as well...principally law. Law is naturally going to reflect the culture of the electorate in a democratic-republic and will evolve with the electorate.

 

Sounds like a book Louis Farrakhan would enjoy...

 

Hahaha...yes, it does. Farrakhan and others. "Stolen land" seems to be a reference to Native Americans. If I sat on a Board of Education, I wouldn't want it taught at K-12, but teachers particularly need to be familiar with the theory in order to answer questions and sort the wheat from the chaff. Sounds like a topic for discussion in upper division and graduate courses at the university level. Isn't the basic question whether there is a "prejudice gene" or is prejudice completely a learned phenomena?

 

Evidence has been provided that this IS being done. Care to address any of it?

 

Age old question...do we inherit the sins of our fathers? Whether it is banned or not, it will be discussed either in the classroom or on the playground. Better, IMO, to face it head on and discuss it as a behavioral science, but as a "theory." The worst thing a teacher can say to their class is "I can't discuss that."

 

They should familiarize themselves with the concept of "Blood Libel" while they're at it...

I certainly don't have a problem with that, and I think it should be discussed in public. That kinda stuff needs to experience the disinfecting effects of sunlight....

Not that it concerns us here, but I can't help but wonder how that book would fare in Europe or Canada where it could run afoul of their hate speech laws...

LOL @ "prejudice gene". That's a "question" that demands some serious professional medical help....

 

That overlooks the fact that teachers aren't free to discuss everything, but I guess they could say that it a topic for psychology or psychiatry class.

 

yep, private schools can do what they want with myths, only public schools would be an issue

but I agree, is it just a book in the library, is it required reading, or what is it

 

It's possible. One trait we seem to have as a species is "prediction" - i.e. looking ahead. Being wary of other humans who appear physically different than our particular "tribe" may be a sort of built-in warning sign that is not necessarily useful today...a type of mental "appendix." Normally we think of "evolution" in physical terms, but presumably it would also apply to the evolution of the brain...which, of course, is the subject matter of evolutionary psychology.

 

That sounds like a very accurate if somewhat allegorical portrayal of how this country was built. I can see why subscribers to White Grievance would be upset by it.

 

And, anyone who has had a college course in American history already knows it. Certainly, the land "stolen" from Native Americans is no deep dark secret. Nor, the era of Big Trusts and the Robber Barons. The Women's suffrage battle, the Civil Rights battles, and the American Imperialism of the 20th century (and yes, there are positive aspects as well...tremendous economic growth, the American Middle Class, the growth of the civil rights, etc.) Without these debates, there would be no acknowledgement of change and progress toward "a more perfect union."

 

I'm sorry - did you say something? My prejudice gene was malfunctioning...

 

I am white and I listened to the ENTIRE READING OF THE BOOKS CONTENTS and there was NOTHING SHE READ that I could DISAGREE WITH. Please tell me what within the covers of that book that you find untrue or objectionable??

 

“Racism is a white people problem”

And you thought the contract with the devil they made for their white skin was accurate?

Says quite a bit about you.

 

Anecdotal, isolated, not part of the curriculum. I never heard a teacher tell white kids they should be ashamed of being white.

You guys suddenly discovered CRT. It's not in the curriculum.

 

The evidence provided in this thread shows differently. 26 schools suggesting that its students read the book in the OP shows differently. The 4,000+ schools teaching the 1619 Project which is based on CRT shows differently. Two articles that are very similar, not from the right side of the aisle, encouraging CRT being taught in Pre-K-12 grades. A .gov article explaining CRT by an author who supports teaching CRT Pre-K-12. Yet you call this anecdotal. What would not be considered anecdotal to you? What would it take for you to admit what is happening? After its already taught in every single school and cited as the gospel Truth?

 

26 schools? There are 130,930 elementary and secondary schools in the United States.

I read some of their materials and objectives. There's no way most high school students would have a clue what they're talking about, especially when they look at economics, something the 1619 Project are clueless about.

Real evidence it's being taught. I don't think it is.

It's nutso to tell white kids they should be ashamed because they're white. They'd laugh you out. I taught high school students for decades. They'd go home to their parents. You have no idea.

 

Whites now only account for roughly 50% of all newborns in the U.S.

 

Like I said, those are just the ones we know about. Do you really think any one or two people can go through all those schools by themselves? Where there's smoke, there's fire.

And that there is the problem. They won't know what's being talked about. They'll take it on blind faith.

What is "real evidence" to you?

Of course its nutso. Why do you think its being hollered about? Why do you think parents are hollering? You think its just because of what's his face...Rufo? or whatever? Why do you think even black parents are hollering? This isn't just some white privilege/white fragility thing you know. Despite what the media says.

 

Yes. They are engaged in a fighting retreat based on three prongs:
i) Only "experts" have a valid view on this and everyone who disagrees should shut up and obey.
ii) It's not happening, so shut up about it.
iii) Even it was happening, that would be fine, so shut up about it.

As you can see, they are mounting various forms of the same argument. "Shut Up!" they explained. This is what the Kakistocracy does when they are too stupid to mount evidence supported arguments powerful enough to persuade. They relegate all views other than their own as "out of bounds" and then insist that their view as the only one standing is the majority view that must be implemented.

White House Backs Teachers Unions, CRT Curricula

"The governing paradigm of his administration, insisting on dividing the country based on race."

The radical teachers unions backed by the demented Biden WH are "preparing legal challenges to state laws stripping such lessons from curricula. At least six states have passed new laws limiting how race can be taught in the classroom and similar proposals are being considered in more than a dozen others."

The Radical Teachers Unions and the Demented Biden WH are declaring war on the American People, Parents and Children.

TEXAS STANDS TALL - Dares Them To "Come And Take It!"

Damn Straight, and any teacher who has a problem with that, we respect their right to hold and voice their own opinions as Americans and we wish them the best of luck in their new vocations, because they will NOT use Texas Funds, Texas Time and Texas Facilities to abuse Texas Children with the vile radical attack that any one of them "should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress” because of their race or sex."

Further, our children will learn the TRUTH. America was founded on "Liberty and equality", not "slavery or racism" as the anti-American haters state.

The haters have every right to hate it and state it, but, they do not have ANY right to our funds, facilities, time or attention.

Not another fkn inch.

The State Legislatures, acting in concert, have nearly unlimited power to check the Federal Government. Our Framers gave them that power for just such a time as this. Together folks, the time is now!

 

Show me the fire. I taught high school students for many years and teachers weren't teaching white kids to hate themselves.

"Blind faith?" No. They don't trust teachers to tell them the truth because there is a lot of propaganda pushed at them by schools. Parents, pols, and folks running schools confuse teaching with preaching.

A good start would be seeing learning materials handed out to students.

It's only be "hollered about" by a few rightwing activists on your "news" sources. There are more than 100,000 schools in the country and there would be a huge uproar if white kids were told they should be ashamed simply because they're white.

It's propaganda, and not even believable propaganda because it's coming from so few places.

There will always be rogue teachers. There are laws supported by the union that make it a criminal offense for teachers not to report anyone molesting a student. If a teacher is telling students they should be ashamed of their race, the people running the system should remove the teacher from the classroom. Period.

This provision in the state of Texas law is absurd:

"No private funding shall be accepted by state agencies, school district, campuses, open-enrollment charter schools, or school administrations for the purposes of curriculum development, purchase or choice of curricular materials, teacher training, or professional development pertaining to courses on Texas, United States, and world history, government, civics, social studies, or similar subject areas."​

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB4093/id/2339789

How can teachers have students access news sources, including the federal government, as part of their studies? It's nutso stuff by people who have no understanding of education.

 

This stuff would sail right over the heads of a lot of high school students.

 

Not following the news might make it difficult to keep up on this forum.