AP: Few AZ voter fraud cases, discrediting Trump’s claims

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only four charges of voter fraud!

    Now they got to buy new machines for what? Four cases of voter fraud?

    And two of them were REPUBLICAN !

    What a joke. Face it Trumpies, Biden won, fair and square.

    You'll just have to get over it, and the sooner, the better.

    https://apnews.com/article/business...lection-2020-e6158cd1b0c6442716064e6791b4c6fc

    Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year’s presidential election, further discrediting former President Donald Trump’s claims of a stolen election as his allies continue a disputed ballot review in the state’s most populous county.

    An Associated Press investigation found 182 cases where problems were clear enough that officials referred them to investigators for further review. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person’s vote was counted twice.

    Arizona’s potential cases also illustrate another reality: Voter fraud is often bipartisan. Of the four Arizona cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They’ve gone too far down trump’s seditious rabbit hole to ever admit their failure. His cult will continue to nurse their big lie grudge for all eternity. They will grow apoplectic when the facts about trump’s failed coup attempt start being included in school history lessons.
     
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    4 cases of fraud, and 0 cases of fraudulent votes successfully getting through and being counted. Keep in mind, we're not just looking for voter fraud, but voter fraud that got through to be included in the final count, and favored one candidate over the other by more than 10,000 votes.
     
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    This thread probably won't get much action. The Dems already knew what the outcome would be so this isn't news to us. Most trumpers will be too embarrassed to say anything.
     
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    I dont understand how the left can talk out of both sides of their mouth on this.

    You can't remove or prevent all logical means of preventing fraud, and then celebrate success of minimal fraud being found.
     
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    But some was found, so obviously not all means of preventing were removed…
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    Jeez, can't win with the likes of you.

    I'm not 'celebrating' the fact that no voter fraud was found. I'm just rubbing the fact in Trumpster's noses, because that is what they deserve.

    And you know it.
     
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    They will just say the fraudit is posting their findings soon and dear cult leader will be reinstalled by August!!!

    I have to give them one thing — they are consistent even in the face of all facts and logic not being on their side.
     
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    So your goal on this forum is not logical discussion, discourse and debate, but rather to "rub their nose" in it and give them what they deserve?

    Say no more. You just invalidated any argument you may have had on any topic.

    Take your partisan rhetoric and go play with somebody else, not interested.
     
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    So says the Trump supporters that claim voter fraud. :)
     
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

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    If the facts have the practical effect of rubbing in their noses, that is the inadvertent and unavoidable by product of reporting facts.

    If partisan rhetoric bothers you, you should stay way from the internet and especially political debate forums.

    My posts rely on logic applied to facts for their conclusions.
     
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    That seems to be her debate strategy
    Make up an excuse why she is unable to debate and then run away.

    I find the deflection from all this fascinating. Tried to warn them that trumps poll numbers were not looking good and they needed to brace themselves but was met with the typical bumper sticker arguments and now I am saying the legal arguments the “cyber ninjas” are making will not sway anyone that isn’t already invested in this.

    They will have a sad August.
     
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    Patience is a virtue. In the matter of the AZ audit just be patient.

    Investigations matter or do they only matter when investigating Donald Trump? You all are very patient when it comes to investigating Trump and you have found nothing yet on him. Yes I deflected because the true is you all have double standards.
     
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    4 CASES of voter fraud in AZ ?!!!!

    We need to enact sweeping, restrictive changes to our voting procedures. With this wave of fraud discovered, we need to require state ID's, verify signatures on the spot or challenge the vote and have voters PROVE that they are Americans who are entitled to vote. Party officials should be allowed in all polling sites
    to observe the voting and talk with voters at the polls while voting is going on. Furthermore, local judges should be enabled to cancel election results if suspicious
    activity is presented to them.

    PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTE ! (maga)
     
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    True.

    "Patience IS a Virtue"...

    That said, are Trump (and his supporters) expecting the final results of the AZ "Audit" before Jesus comes back?
     
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    I find it tiring with their constant ridiculous conspiracies.
     
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    People would have less of an issue with this “audit” if it wasn’t done by partisan hacks that participated in the insurrection for trump who claimed fraud before the first recount had been started. The same company that was using conspiracy theories like bamboo ballots and permanent marker as their initial assessments.

    AZ has had 12 recounts and a forensic audit — I know of no one that complained. How would you feel if Hillary Clinton had pulled this and her supporters were the ones running the audit? Would you be saying “patience please”?
     
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    Trump is not Jesus and to say he is just shows how you all are desperate to paint him as such. Hate has you all blinded.
     
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    I would have been happy if the audit was 50/50 Republicans and Democrats but I'm in the minority.

    Most Republicans don't trust any Democrat and for good reason thus they would not accept the results from any group mixed with Democrats or Democrat run.
     
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    The audit shouldn’t be ran by partisans on either side. It should be ran by non-partisan independent firms and partisans are welcome to watch it and report inconsistencies.

    You do not know that about Democrats though, if an independent firm found fraud and it was verified most Democrats would be furious and want those guilty arrested or even executed. Instead y’all have put the most partisan people doing this — no one besides partisans will accept their findings.
     
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    Let all congratulate JOE BIDEN WINNING ARIZONA FOR THE 6TH TIME!!! :applause:
     
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    There you were, clamoring for non-partisanship, and then you run off with a highly charged partisan rant, noting you have no evidence of that charge, or any act by Democrats that remotely resembles it.

    Talk about hypocrisy.
     
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    "Trump is not Jesus".

    LOL...No Kidding...Nobody said he was...

    Lolwut? :roflol:

    I NEVER said Trump was "Jesus".

    Where did you come up with that one?

    A reading comprehension issue?
     
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    How is that highly charged or partisan? Strange how you are not lecturing the prior poster…

    Would you like me to revise it to “the Democrats I know as well as myself”? I have more evidence for my claim than the prior position that was asserted as fact yet you ignored that one…

    Hypocrisy indeed
     
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    You wrote:

    The audit shouldn’t be ran by partisans on either side. It should be ran by non-partisan independent firms and partisans are welcome to watch it and report inconsistencies.

    You do not know that about Democrats though, if an independent firm found fraud and it was verified most Democrats would be furious and want those guilty arrested or even executed. Instead y’all have put the most partisan people doing this — no one besides partisans will accept their findings.


    You are asking for non partisanship, then rant in a highly partisan fashion about democrats wanting people to get EXECUTED.

    Name some.

    If that isn't a hypocritical vacuous partisan rant, I don't know what is.
     
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