Last U.S. Troops Leave Afghanistan After Nearly 20 Years

It's O.K. - Nothing is Biden's fault, but if it goes well... he should get the credit. You're doing it right for a Leftist.

 

The girls were not.alloeed to enter by the military.

 

8 months into Bidens term and he keeps saying the buck stops with him.

What was he waiting for?

 

Like the promise Biden made on August 19th that we wouldn’t leave unless we got all Americans out? That was a lie.

 

You're trying to defend it now? We didn't get it back and secured and out of the country or destroyed.

Have you seen the list, what they got at Bagram which WE controlled where we tucked our tails and got out in the dead of night without even telling the Afghan forces we were leaving. It's hard to destroy everything when you are trying to sneak out and not let anyone know.

 

Or arm your enemy.

 

I'm reporting news. No American media or military on the ground in Kabul so the burden is not on me.

 

Just the good bucks not the bad bucks those are all Trumps.

 

We have a total clown show running the Executive Branch. It's dangerous for America.

 

The alternative being let them keep blowing our our embassy's and buildings?

We weren't building a nation the Afghans have a nation, we were fighting a war against terrorist who want to kill us by support the frontline Afghan forces with our air support, intelligence and logistics with minimal forces in country.

Bush followed through where is predecessor failed after the first WWC attack which led to the second and and based on the Clinton administration position that Saddam Hussein was a WMD and military threat to his own people, the region and the world and as long as he remained in power he be that threat, he would never give it up and therefore had to be removed.

Ended how and then what?

I didn't support his deal but it was a HELL of a lot better than Biden's and would not have resulted in this fiasco.

Biden bungled it strategically by changing it to an unconditional withdrawal to an etched in stone date no matter who the Taliban violated the agreement and then tactically by abandoning Bagram, pulling the troops out first, turning down the Taliban offer to let us control Kabul during the retreat botching it with our allies and leaving people behind.

The Taliban not only has pilots they can get more and Turkey and Russia and China will be happy to help them. And I reject your military theory that arming our enemies is good for our economy.

Speak softly and carry a big stick. I think the Taliban knows how to keep their ruled in line.

I don't hold my head in shame I hold Biden and his military and diplomatic core in shame. The only shame is we are back to where we were pre-9/11. Are you prepared for that?

 

Only allah knows what the taliban is going to do with the military equipment we left behind.


Taliban appear to fly US Black Hawk helicopters over Kandahar


The Taliban is seemingly parading their new air force in the skies over Afghanistan, with video online purporting to show US-made Black Hawk helicopters flying over the streets of Kandahar.

The Taliban, by some estimates, has more Black Hawk helicopters than 85 per cent of the world after the US abandoned $85bn worth of military equipment.

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/...tQV6U_WVFIYmGJIRXcIaTWHFD-5wme-DBBbJ2ZmxJJxy0

 

We're out of there. Promise kept. Thank you, President Biden.

 

The only way to stop that is to invade an spend hundreds of billions building nations? Nope.

That's not what nation building means. The Japanese had a nation. So did Germany. We engaged in nation building there. We did it in Afghanistan. We propped up a government. Gave their economy money. We supported their secularization of government and championed their values that matched ours. That's nation building. It's not creating a new nation out of thin air.

Bush didn't have a plan thus his follow through was dumb. Bush thought it would be easy. We'd be welcomed as liberators, remember? He was wrong.

By getting out and letting Afghanistan do what it wants. That's how. It's not our job to make them successful or like us.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Your guy screwed up and you can't admit it. I already admitted my guy messed up. But you're not capable. Trump is incompetent in governing, business, and life. That's plain as day. His deal was horrible and he would have made the same mess as Biden.

Yeah, that's called getting out. Because here's the problem with a conditional withdrawal, it means we are wiling to stay. We didn't want to stay. So why put stupid conditions on the withdrawal you aren't going to back? All your fuming over the stupid conditions Trump agreed to are pointless. We had no desire to stay. None.

You can reject it all you like, but it doesn't change how the world works. I mean, you don't think if it was vital to keep that hardware we wouldn't have? Come on. Pilots? No, military helicoptors need more than just "pilots." These are specialized flying machines. Reading stick and rudder won't do the trick or make them combat effective in them. Why would Tukey, Russia, and China be happy to help a bunch of religious fanatics? Least of all Turkey who has no interest in the Taliban or their way of life.

And yet, they couldn't rule the entire country before. I doubt they will now. They haven't changed much, they just outlasted us is all.

His military? They are the same military Trump had. You find our military shameful? You should go tell them that to their faces. Go on.

I LOVED pre-9/11. It was great. I didn't have take off my shoes at the airport, we didn't have thousands of lost lives in countries that didn't want us there. Why WOULDN'T you want us to be where we where pre-9/11? That's the whole point of doing everything we do, is to AVOID being in wars and living in a security state, right?

We never should have invaded Iraq or Afghanistan. We had no need to. Proof? Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan. Why haven't you signed on to invade Pakistan? Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi's or Egyptians. Where's your call to invade those countries? I don't recall you having any problem with Trump and his family cozying up to the Saudis....You went along with "your" guy at the time is all. You didn't stop and think, you just wanted your team to win. It's OK, you're a partisan guy posting on the internet. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't confuse it with being right. I sure don't do it to myself, so it's good advice.

 

He also said it wouldnt look like the fall of Saigon.

Also a lie.

 

The manner in which we left Afghanistan is humiliating. Husband and I were reflecting that liberals kept saying Trump was an embarrassment in front of our allies, but they hadn't seen nothing yet. So, is Biden just stupid, or is he evil and knows exactly what he's doing? Historians will be debating that for years.

 

We lost more than 13 soldiers in the Afghan War.

 

I bet you think that it would not be a retreat or a failure of a war had Trump finished it instead of kicking that can down the road.

 

Why don't you hop on a plane and go save these people you don't know?

 

What people did he leave behind?

 

I voted for Biden but it is abundantly clear that this withdrawal was faulty. In mid-July 2021, no fewer than 23 Embassy staff members sent a letter to the DoD begging for evacuations to start immediately, quoting that the idea that the Afghan national armed forces would resist the Taliban and the idea that we had months to get people out were preposterous. This evaluation by our on-site diplomates was arrogantly deemed "just one opinion." Now, we know that they were right, and the Pentagon and Biden were wrong. It's not Monday Morning Quarterbacking. In mid-July the administration was warned by the people best equipped to understand the local situation. The rushed and disorganized withdraw that ensued given that this advice was not honored, resulted in a messy chaos and a golden opportunity for ISIS-K to attack; they did, and killed 13 US servicemen and servicewomen, every single one of them more valuable than our rotten politicians. This can not be forgiven. With the rushed withdrawal we also left behind billions in military equipment; we should have destroyed what we couldn't take back.

Whoever won't see Biden's shortcomings related to this withdrawal, is being unreasonably partisan. Yes, predecessors should share some of the blame for this 20-year long situation, but this mess was Biden's mess. There is no doubt about it.

This, coupled with blunders by Biden's CDC in managing the pandemic, inflation, and the deterioration of the situation at the southern border, frankly make me regret my vote for Biden. Not that I'd have voted for Trump if I knew then what I know now (I still think that Trump was an even worse alternative) but I should have voted third party or simply not voted.

As of now, if Biden decided to resign (which I'm sure he won't do) I'd welcome the decision, even though I'm afraid Kamala Harris is even worse. Still, I just can't continue to support this inept administration that managed to screw up in the very area of claimed expertise - Biden presents himself as a foreign policy expert. Oh wow, if that's the area he knows best, I'm afraid of whatever he will do in other areas.

 

Quote it AND Link it or Retract it AND apologize for spreading falsehoods... your call...

 

The humiliation is not over. As news gets out about trapped Americans it will get worse.

 

Why are you so mad? This is Bidens baby.

 

According to Trump the Taliban is no longer the enemy after the agreement was signed...

 

I am glad it is over now we can fight wars in other continents for the good of the capitalist.