What Actually Happens When a Country Bans Abortion

LOL! You lost. Just accept it.

 

I think is you who may be lost mate .. what is is that is lost - what are you looking for ?

 

So much protesting for losing.

 

I know .. you need to stop complaining about losing and move on.. get a better argument.

 

Now you are getting it. I am glad to see you admit you need a better argument.

 

Which argument do you think needs improvement.

 

You need to switch to the correct one. The one that is against abortion.

 

No Sir .. I will not join you in your quest to trample over the founding principles - I will not be party to the killing hundreds of "Innocent Children" - who you have callously dehumanized .. in your words "as Nazi's did to the Jews"

 

Foetuses are not 'children';

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[1]: "Child". TheFreeDictionary.com. Retrieved 5 January 2013
[2]: Mosby's Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing & Health Professions. Elsevier Health Sciences. p. 345. ISBN 978-0-323-07403-2.

 

Your links don't work - don't support claim - unfortunately.

1) Wasn't talking about Foetuses - talking about the Mighty Zygote - and its progeny
2) I don't believe Zygote is child ... but others claim this is an "Innocent child"
3) IF - one does claim "innocent child" - my question is what about the many innocent children of the zygote who are killed during process of child -birth.

For some reason .. the anti-aborts - do not want to address #3

 

Would you expand on number 3 please, because I am not following what you are talking about. If you addressed it in an earlier post, a reference will be fine.

 

Certainly .. OK .. if one claims "the Zygote" is a person .. an "Innocent Child" then are the children of the zygote .. not also people ?

After the first mitotic division.. the parent zygote no longer exists. What exists are its two children .. identical genetic clones of the zygote .. both "totipotent" - individually capable of creating a new human - and in fact sometimes they do go on to produce two or more individuals .. the "Twinning Argument" being why the Genetic Perspective (one of 5 different scientific perspectives on when human life begins - metabolic, embyological, neurological, ecological are the others) while popular with the public --is not so popular among Scientists.

So ..if we define the zygote as a person .. after the first mitotic division .. we now have 2 people .. and soon 4, 8, and so on .. all the way to around 200 or so. All totipotent clones of the zygote .. each individually capable of creating a new human - capable of creating all the different cells in the human body - hence why we love these things for stem cell research ... and also why it is so contraversial .

These cells form a hollow ball known as the "Blastocyst" Then ..these zygotes start spitting out the various specialized and differentiated cells that will form the human .. these cells are called the "Embryoblast" .. and it is these cells that will go on to form the structure of the human under creation.

As for the zygotes in the Blastocyst .. they will go on to become the placenta .. never will a single one of these cells be part of the human structure that is being created.

So .. if we call these totipotent cells .. People .. the process of birth will kill a whole lot of these "Innocent Children"

And good luck having someone try to claim/explain the difference between the parent and the children .. such that one is a person and the children are not.

 

Sounds like you are for "States rights" to own slaves. It is ironic that you are making the same type of argument made by those who committed atrocities throughout history. It is always for the "greater good".

 

Nope .. your trying to project your desires onto others again - in desperate attempt to divert from topic .. and don't blame me for your sick utilitarian ideology ...

I am not the one that wishes all those innocent children dead .. in your warped quest to use physical violence - to force women to do your bidding ..

 

LOL! What innocent children are dying other than those killed through abortion? And just how am I forcing women to do anything?

 

I thought you were for abortion law .. my apologies if this is not the case..

 

I am not for the law making abortion legal. Why would I support legalized genocide?

You have failed to answer my questions.

 

I will answer one of them now ... now that you have stated your position .. which is nonsense .. as we don't make laws legalizing things .. we make law to prohibit something ... you can have legislation repealing bad law .. such as in the case of pot.

In any case .. you are for law - which forces women to carry a pregnancy to term. = you want physical violence to be used - to prevent women from aborting .. forcing them to carry the pregnancy to term ..

Did you not know that that is what Law is ?

 

So now you are trying to get off into the weeds by splitting hairs over the definition of a law.....sad.

Whether it is a law or a Supreme Court decision, abortion is legalized and yes, it is genocide.

Now that you are clearly dodging my questions you should just surrender.

 

No hair splitting .. very simple -- Law - -by definition - is giving Gov't the power to punish violators of said law.

So once again why do you wish all those innocent children dead .. in your warped quest to use physical violence - to force women to do your bidding .

 

Still dodging....why can't you answer my questions?

 

You have to understand 1) before you can understand 2 -- and you can't seem to figure out that law - by definition - involves punishment.

1) you wish to force women - through physical violence - to allow the zygote to live .. 2) which will result in the death of many innocent Children.

both your questions are answered .. which do you not understand ? ..

 

Nonsense. How does allowing a child to live result in death? And not making abortion legal does not force women to do anything.

Of course, the Nazis painted an alternate reality where the German people were victims so they could justify genocide.

 

No wonder you seem so baffled .. making something illegal .. forces people to abide by that law via threat of physical violence regardless of that the moron's tell you. Poly Sci 100 ..

Why you wish to dehumanize the zygote so you can engage in genoide -- like Nazi to the Jew -- I do not know.

 

It is amazing how these Nazi's try to justify genocide ... isn't it. They desired to punish the Jews on the basis of absurd justification - all kinds of atrocities up to and including forcing them into gas chambers.

How you figure this wasn't force -- Punishing people on the basis of law - desiring to make law that punishes people for an action you don't like.

When the woman that you want to jail resists arrest .. is she not forced to comply ... I understand that you want to punish women for abortion -but, your claim that this punishment is not forced on these women is complete nonsense .. and we shold not be making law on the basis of nonscense .. folks who have no clue what they are doing .. no what the effect of law is .. should not be making laws .