What Actually Happens When a Country Bans Abortion

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So where is the "putting words in others mouth"? And where is the link to your to your definition?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OMG - you seriously didn't know what a Strawman was :hippie::deadhorse:

    strawman
    You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

    All this time crying Strawman every few posts .. and you didn't realize the above was the definition .. evidenced by your request for a link.

    Humor .. here is your link .. Go to Google .. type in Strawman .. and will be the first definition that comes up .. and every other definition.

    Now go and learn :)
     
  3. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So you cannot back up your claim with a link? Big surprise....not!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure I can - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman - just wanted to laugh a big longer at the fact that you didn't know what a Strawman was... knowing that you would demand it .. doubling down on denial .. in some game of shells you like to play with yourself and others

    but never mind that .. you have yet to explain why you want to kill these innocent children.. " dehumanize them as Nazi's did to Jews" .. to use your words

    How many souls after the first mitotic division Doomer .. - good one for you to ponder..
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    What you claimed a strawman is:



    From the link you provided:

    Now, where in your linked definition does it say a strawman is "putting words in someone's mouth"?
    Answer: It doesn't.

    You have been proven wrong by your own link!

    Again, learn what a strawman is.

    Once again you have lost. Trying to use your strawman argument to salvage any dignity from your loss is just sad.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are completely lost .. first off .. I posted from "The link Provided" after which you cried NO NO NO NO.. followed by asking for a link.
    The link provided then stated exactly what I said .. and what you responded NO NO NO to.. not recognizing that misrepresenting someone's argument was a strawman .. so you proved yourself wrong there.

    You are show your level of understanding by not realizing that "Misrepresenting someone's argument" is "Putting words in someone's Mouth"

    You then lose again by not recognizing your position is hopelessly lost -- and that you have refuted yourself.

    3 Strikes in one post .... Yerrrrr OUT :) heh heh
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    LOL! Nah, I love having folks prove themselves wrong....which you did. You misrepresented what a strawman was. You also misrepresented claims that I made in order to create a strawman. Now you are trying to cover your tracks. You have painted yourself in a corner. Just go ahead and admit defeat.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope .. you had no clue that Strawman meant . "misrepresenting someone's argument" .. as you are doing now .. and blathering out false accusations without backing them up.

    Do show how I have misrepresented anything you said Mr. Strawman.

    then laughably .. you still can't figure out that misrepresenting someonones argument is putting words in your opponents mouth .. .then spewing more falsehood claiming it was I who proved myself wrong .. when it was you who did this.

    Back up your claim that I proved myself wrong.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    LOL! You backed up my argument for me with your link. "Putting words in someone's mouth" is nowhere in your link.

    The game is over and you lost.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    No, the link did not state what you said. You lost.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Your link backs up my claim.

    Game over.
     
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    Here is one of your strawmen. The statement in bold. Where did I say I wanted to punish anyone?

    Again, statement in bold. Where did I dehumanize anyone?
    Answer: I didn't.
    Another strawman You built.

    Once again statement in bold. Two strawmen there. I never claimed to want to force anyone to do anything. Where will such a thing "result in the death of many children"? This is completely made up BS.

    You misrepresented my argument so many times in order to be able to gain advantage. Well, your strawman army has failed and your premise is laughable.

    Old_man_laughing_hard.gif

    You lose again.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) I understand that you want to punish women for abortion
    .2)I never claimed to want to force anyone to do anything
    3) Where did I dehumanize anyone?


    A strawman is a false accusation -- listed are the 3 things you claimed as "Strawman"

    1) You do want to punish women for abortion you want law against abortion .. which is wanting to punish women for abortion - as that is what Law is .. the whole point of it. .. as explained to you previously.
    2) You want to use force - and the threat of physical violence - to prevent women from having an abortion
    3) You dehumanized the zygote - not putting the zygotes killed during the birth process on the same level as an "Innocent Child" having no regard for their deaths caused by your desire to use force to make women go through pregnancy.
     
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    Your #1 claim I so called made is not stated correctly. #1 is the claim YOU made. You are intentionally misleading here.

    #2, show me where I said I wanted to use force.

    #3 Show me where I said any of this.

    I never claimed any of these things. These are merely strawmen arguments you made in order to better position yourself.

    I have only pointed out the similarities of those who have committed atrocities in history and those who support abortion, which is a modern day atrocity.

    Since you cannot refute my claim it is necessary for you to make strawmen to have a small chance to defend your position.

    It didn't work. You lost.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are for law against abortion ... you are for both 1 and 2. 1) I understand that you want to punish women for abortion
    .2)I never claimed to want to force anyone to do anything


    Claiming to want law against abortion .. is claiming to want women to be forced to continue a pregnancy - and if they violate this law .. they are punished.
     
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    3) You dehumanized the zygote - not putting the zygotes killed during the birth process on the same level as an "Innocent Child" having no regard for their deaths caused by your desire to use force to make women go through pregnancy.

    Of course you did this .. you went on for many posts about how a zygote was an innocent child .. and that those who claim otherwise and/or accept abortion is like how the Nazi's dehumanized the Jews.

    Do you deny that you said this ? .. if so .. state what your position is .. why you invoked the Nazi/Jew trope.
     
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    False equivalency. You are adding your own spin.
     
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    And yet you cannot quote where I did so. Nice strawman.
     
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    No spin .. you just are in denial of what law is.

    Do you not understand that making a law gives the state the power to punish violators of said law ?

    Not complicated .. not spin .. you just can't deal with the consequences of your actions.
     
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    Was long time ago ..

    If you are going to lie about it .. perhaps it is worth my time to go dig up your past statements of which you are now in denial.

    So what is it .. did you post about how the Nazi's dehumanized the Jews .. in relation to abortion .. or did you not.
     
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    LOL! Wrong again.
     
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    Now you are misrepresenting my statement. Perhaps you should post what I posted instead of creating strawmen.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    I have to chuckle at how pro-abortion folks have to use pretzel logic to justify such an atrocity.
     
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    There are many ways men and teenager fathers can legally get out of fatherhood.
     
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    Nobody is being charged with murder for aborting atm.
     

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