Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Talon

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    I expect Vlad the Invader and his goon squads will be committing a lot more of these war crimes in the days and weeks ahead:

    Maternity hospital hit by Russian air strike
    Published 19 minutes ago
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60675599
     
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    Indeed........and he get s more emboldened ..........as he is getting away with ti........He is demonstrating that there are no rules ........that he won't break And his Nuke threats a re literally holing the world hostage..now. as it seems he will stop at nothing.......to achieve his aims.
     
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    War is a real bitch. This was a minor incident. I guess. Is it even comparable?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike

    Kunduz hospital airstrike
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Part of Battle of Kunduz and the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)

    Location of Kunduz MSF Trauma Center within Kunduz
    Type Airstrike
    Location
    Kunduz Province, Afghanistan
    Target Kunduz Trauma Centre, Médecins Sans Frontières hospital
    Date 3 October 2015
    Executed by [​IMG] AC-130U, call sign "Hammer", assigned to 4th Special Operations Squadron, United States Air Force[1]
    Casualties 42 killed
    33 missing, over 30 injured


    War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)
    On 3 October 2015, a United States Air Force AC-130U gunship attacked the Kunduz Trauma Centre operated by Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF, or Doctors Without Borders) in the city of Kunduz, in the province of the same name in northern Afghanistan.[2][3][4][5][6][7] 42 people were killed[8] and over 30 were injured. Médecins Sans Frontières condemned the incident, calling it a deliberate breach of international humanitarian law and a war crime. It further stated that all warring parties had been notified about the hospital and its operations well in advance.[9][10]
     
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    Agreed, and to that I'll add that Putin's nuclear saber rattling is nothing but bluster. He knows that weak Western "leaders" are afraid of him and he's preying on their weakness and fear to paralyze our response. Hitler operated in a similar fashion and we saw how that worked out.
     
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    Putin is that villain who takes a hostage and gets the hero to put down his gun.
     
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    GLORY TO HEROES!

    What could be sweeter than suffering in the name of neo-Nazis in a distant land. :)
     
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    Making suffering Russian fascists more. ;)
     
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    Putting the Olgino Gang out of work and helping Russia free itself of their employers.
     
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    This is an interesting account of the developments in Ukraine....

    The first stage of the operation…

    We underestimated the enemy’s power of informational, ideological, psychological resistance, they were waiting for us. Literally on the very first day, with one click of American bloody fingers, they deprived us of the support of the civilian population and those AFU units ready to become neutral. Millions of dollars, thousands of IT guys, global media corporations cut Ukraine off from any objective information, it stank in our country.

    And our main losses were in the first three days. Now they will be rapidly reduced. Peacekeeping and humanitarian operations, like the Crimean one— are no longer carried out by the Russian army. The fighters received other orders, got involved, got angry, regrouped, any hopes for active support from the civilian population and those parts of the AFU who had changed their mind were dispelled.

    There were few flowers and bread loaves to be seen, the people have been crushed by propaganda and lies, intimidated into insanity by the Nazis. Another important point was missed in the calculations — almost 600 thousand Ukrainians have passed through the ATO zone in the Donbas since 2014, today they have replenished the territorial defense everywhere, many have something to fear. Especially in the wake of fakes about executions without trial by the ATO.

    Can you imagine what, during a year of service there, the Nazis stuffed into their heads – gave them the opportunity to shoot at the settlements of “quilted jackets and colorados” with impunity, to mock the civilian population there. So, the calculation for the help of locals and APU was inaccurate, the cancer in Ukrainian society is simply monstrous. But… we will cure it.

    If we explain our tactics of the first days… this is a creatively reworked “reconnaissance by combat” of the Great Patriotic War. Only with a deep and rapid penetration into the Nazi-occupied territory. We provoked the activity of the enemy with tactical groups, deliberately drawing out parts of the APU and the National Guard from their locations. With a small number withstanding the terrible counterattacks of tanks and armored vehicles, of a superior in number motorized infantry.

    Sometimes it was impossible to suppress the “Grads”, artillery and mortars hidden in residential neighborhoods that were nailing you. Urban areas could not be cleaned methodically in combat formations, causing supporting fire, attack helicopters, sappers, flamethrowers, tanks to carry machine-gun emplacements in houses and social infrastructure facilities.

    This is a war unfamiliar to us veterans. Especially when the sky is under your full control, airfields are packed with attack aircraft and bombers, operational and tactical missile systems are in service, there is a lot of heavy artillery. Now it has become clear even to civilians: the correct name for what is happening truly is “a special military operation for denazification.” And the demilitarization of Nezalezhnaya was completed by the end of the third day.

    The APU, as a single, manageable and effective structure, has ceased to exist. Today, there are dozens of groups of different numbers isolated from each other, hiding in cities and towns. No centralized supply, no air support, no approach of reinforcements. They are not able to act within the framework of any plans of the Ukrainian General Staff. Just crowds of armed men with orders to stand to the death.

    The main groups “North” and “East” were beheaded and deprived of command — these are 22 brigades, which had been entrusted with the honorable duty to drown Donbass in blood at the beginning of March. We beat them to it by a week or two, starting our own special operation. Now 150 thousand people (together with national soldiers) are marinated in “cauldrons”, cut off from each other. For a second — this was done by smaller Russian forces… and in five days.

    There is no organized resistance in other operational areas. Separate parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), national battalions, sabotage groups. Everyone acts at their discretion, with varying degrees of activity. There is no way to move in columns, regroup, replenish ammunition, fuel, equipment even in local warehouses, everything is systematically destroyed by high-precision weapons and aircraft.

    In a week or two, 80% of the AFU will turn into detachments completely devoid of ammunition, fuel, medicines, and food. Mentally and physically exhausted, without a unified command, goals and objectives. For the army, this is a terrible thing – despondency and decay. Especially for the Ukrainian, which is held by fear, propped up by Bandera detachments. Servicemen fear for the fate of their families in the rear........More to follow......
     
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    The second stage of the operation…

    Recognizably, the Syrian scenario. A neutral or terrorist-fearing population, among which it is almost impossible to identify militants. The Russian Army does not take such settlements – it surrounds cities with Bandera national battalions. Soon we will observe buses and “export tours” in the direction of the Western region. As soon as they are “ripe” without any support and help from outside.

    In other places, cities are taken into semi-encirclement, thereby inviting the defenders to leave the territory on their own. No organized military columns, heavy equipment – all these goods are being destroyed. Individually, expensive. Yes, there is a danger of the appearance of a large number of sabotage groups, however, strategically three main tasks of the special operation are being solved: minimizing losses among the civilian population and infrastructure, our units and the army of Ukraine.

    For the Russian and Ukrainian military to be cutting each other up with rapture is much too a luxurious gift for Washington and the Euro-Reich. The Bandera’s “partisan detachments” will get on your nerves, but the idea of the command is not bad. They will become legitimate prey for counter-terror detachments, military police and Ramzan Kadyrov’s men from the National Guard. Who do not take terrorist prisoners, they wipe them out… wherever they may find them. Denazification in the literal sense of the word.

    An even sadder fate awaits the numerous mercenaries of the EuroReich, from which they form not military units (no time), but sabotage and tactical groups. Our General Staff has already stated that it does not consider them combatants with all the ensuing consequences, no conventions on prisoners of war apply here. I am sure that a special, cruel and purposeful hunt will be conducted for these “soldiers of fortune”. Poor devils…

    More to follow.....
     
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    A lot of that would have to come from within Russia....but given what they are being told.......... they don't have the motivation /
     
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    Thank you, Moscow.
     
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    The third stage of the operation.

    I will not tell you in detail how and where the fighting unfolds, there is enough information from professional experts in the public domain. But everything is happening strictly according to plans, we have not even started transferring reserves, and they are standing in columns in the border areas. Losses are not just tolerable (from a military statistical point of view) — insignificant. Not a single unit has been allocated for re-formation or rest, which means it is fully combat-ready.

    Look at the map, estimate the distances, marches, constant clashes, regrouping, maneuvering for tens of kilometers, and remember – our guys are opposed by the third largest army in Europe and extremely motivated Nazi formations. We need to tighten up the rear, rest elementary, maintain equipment, perform a bunch of previously unforeseen actions.

    There is no need to pressure anyone, to demand more decisive actions – Flags of Victory over Mariupol, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkov, Odessa, and even more so, useless Kiev with its three million panicked, propaganda-pumped citizens. The objectives of the operation are strategy and tactics – in this completely new page in the art of war, haste is unacceptable.

    My classmate at the Academy asked yesterday in a personal post:

    Why is military aid to Ukraine not destroyed right at the arrival airport?

    Why is it even possible for NATO transporters to visit the airspace of Ukraine?

    Do you have a feeling that our diplomats are beginning to drain the efforts of the army? … All sorts of bad thoughts are wandering around in my head.

    According to point number three. There will be no drain, all the goals of the special operation will be fulfilled. This is categorically repeated every day by the hardened Lavrov, and Putin announced yesterday. The French “peacemaker” Macron is all washed up with his mediation. And Medinsky in Belovezhskaya Pushcha is subtly mocking the metrosexuals from the Ukrainian delegation. There’s no one there to talk to.

    Look at the brave Commander-in-Chief Ze, how he looks. Complete disintegration of the personality under the influence of drugs. The Americans will not allow him to negotiate and his own Nazis will kill him. The task is different – to completely destroy the country, drown it in chaos, so there will be nothing left over for anyone.

    The special operation does not stop, there will be no more delays. Every day of delay categorically harms us, unplanned diplomatic, political, economic and military problems appear. Only speed and onslaught, until in the West they begin to assess the situation with a cool head.

    About flying transporters with NATO symbols delivering weapons. This is impossible, the sky over the Nezalezhnaya and the south of Russia is closed for flights. They will make ground deliveries from Poland. And we will not destroy such convoys with “humanitarian aid”. Why, you ask? Better ask another question — who exactly is in power in Ukraine?

    Outright Nazis. They took millions of civilians hostage in cities without humanitarian corridors, drove terrified people into basements and subway stations. Poisoning people with lies about “Russian atrocities”, mass shootings, executions, violence, carpet bombing. They place civilians with machine guns near strategic command and control facilities. As in Kiev at the SBU building, closely adjacent to the St Sofia Cathedral.

    Zelensky’s curators and Bandera battalions are staging a humanitarian catastrophe, leaving the towns and villages of Donbass and blowing up everything: bridges, substations, pumping stations. Remember the liberation of Ukraine and 1945, the agony of the Third Reich. The quote of the demoniac, issued in the orders on the destruction of the entire infrastructure of Germany: “if the war is lost, it absolutely does not matter that the people will die.”

    It is useful to know history in order to predict the behavior of the Nazis. Such is the ideology, social norms of life, worldview.

    So, military columns will not be destroyed for three reasons. Firstly, these are trophies. Secondly, weapons will not get to the combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions of the South-East — the addressees are sitting in “cauldrons”. Thirdly, everything will be transported by ordinary civilian trucks, the rear transport of the AFU units is together with its parts, or destroyed in fleets.

    Calculate and hit container trucks? Yes, you can. Just keep in mind — all the roads to the border checkpoints with “kind-hearted Europe” are clogged with columns of cars of fleeing Ukrainians for hundreds of kilometers. The traffic there is terrible. There are women and children in the cars. And Poland and Hungary did not move the inspection points into the depths of their territories, did not increase the checkpoint capacity with additional personnel.

    That is, Ukrainian border guards with their “colleagues” keep people waiting for days to cross the border. Continue to describe the scenario that Kiev and Washington are counting on? Or can you figure out for yourself what kind of TV picture the whole “civilized world” expects? They dream that bloodthirsty Russians will start bombing civilian cars… or the railway.

    But it is hard to believe in such scenarios, it is clear to everyone – Ukraine is completely lost, no amount of weapons will help it anymore. But some parts will definitely be delivered to Lvov, mercenaries and ideological Banderites will receive them. And then in groups proceed to commit sabotage, intimidate local administrations across the country, try to disrupt our communications and supply lines.

    But this is another special operation, a police one. One that Ukrainians themselves are able to carry out with minimal Russian help, as they get over their shock. This is their land, they live here. Announce a reward of five thousand dollars for an anonymous denunciation — in a day all saboteurs and partisans will end. This is the kind of country it is.
     
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    You might be interested in these interviews:

    Kremlin Vet: They’ll Overthrow Putin Before Giving Him ‘Bad News’ About Russian Setbacks In Ukraine


    As War Drags On, Russia Expert Says ‘Putin Needs To Watch His Back’
     
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    'The grimmest it has been': Some Russians are fleeing home as Putin cracks down, fearing a new 'Iron Curtain' closing in wake of his Ukraine invasion

    Russian President Vladimir Putin is cracking down on dissent as he tries to crush any opposition to his struggling invasion of Ukraine, which has left Russia deeply isolated both culturally and economically from a scornful world. NBC News spoke to one Russian among thousands estimated to have escaped the country, some of whom fear that a new "Iron Curtain" may be closing.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...N4MZmYTQ1ZpNGgFJsaktST8tjmkfc4A+5Y6hbJQEAAA==
     
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    I lol’d at this delusional fascism.
     
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    The final turning point will come after the cleansing of Kharkov, blocking or taking Odessa. All the heroic self-defense forces of other settlements will dissolve by themselves, obvious signs of a humanitarian catastrophe are already visible in the surrounded cities. The fog, when it is completely fake, subsides most quickly in the dark, invigorating coolness and on an empty stomach.

    The population is not morally ready to stand to the last. Ukrainian social networks are already full of messages from places where local administrations remained after the arrival of the Russian Army, food is being delivered smoothly, street lighting is on, local police control the streets. With each new day, the fake hysteria will subside, the thought will come to the drugged heads: what next?

    Will the encircled Banderites begin to commit atrocities in their impotent anger? Well, Ukrainians should also carry this cross on their own. Of course, we will try to do everything to rescue children and the elderly. But Putin will not allow to bear sensitive losses, this is not that war.

    It was not us who raised the fiend of hell, nurtured it, allowed it to seize power and hostages in the person of an entire nation. It was not us, who armed them and sent them to kill Donbass, taught them to hate Russians. Criminal indifference and complicity is also a punishable act. Not by us, by life itself.”

    I agree that in some places it is very cynical, but this is only from the point of view of a civilian. Any military action –that is a different reality…

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    They know exactly what kind of life they’ll get in Russia. They won’t stop.
     
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    'No Doubt' Russia Will See Regime Change: Khodorkovsky


    Former Yukos Oil CEO Mikhail Khodorkovsky says Russia has moved from an authoritarian regime to a totalitarian one. Speaking to Bloomberg's Annmarie Hordern in an exclusive interview, the exiled Russian businessman also said the level of resistance in Ukraine is likely to have come as a total shock to President Vladimir Putin.​
     
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    Time for Putin to pay the Piper.
    Russia’s ‘imminent’ default would have devastating ripples
    By Jacob Bogage and Adela Suliman

    Russia is at “imminent” risk of defaulting on its debts as Western economic sanctions choke off its access to dollars and other global currencies to pay lenders, a move that would have devastating economic ripple effects.

    Fitch Ratings downgraded Russia’s credit to “C,” or junk status, cautioning investors on Wednesday that Moscow was careening toward an inability to make good on its debts. Moody’s and S&P Global, the two other dominant international credit agencies, made similar moves in recent days.

    The downgrades are signals to investors to steer clear of Russia, lest they get caught up in the expanding sanctions or sink money into assets that are bleeding value by the day. But a default, which analysts are beginning to see as inevitable, could have far more sweeping consequences, sending lenders scurrying for financial high ground and fleeing developing international markets that rely on risk-tolerant investors. . . .
     
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    And life in Russia will be a lot worse now........and as this insanity progresses. When most of the planet turns against one country......... that country can only go backwards.........more backwards than it is already.

    The facts of this invasion will trickle in and folks in Russia will have to decide what they can believe.........and the monment they start doubting the Prussian propaganda ........things might change internally.....
     
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    I saw complaints in comment section of Russian RIA new agency about prices significantly increasing for baby food, diapers, and other necessities. Just like we see our gas prices hitting new highs, they see prices on everyday things doing the same.
     
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    If Putin was /is shocked by the amount of resistance.........then he totally misread the situation from the onset. It also speaks to his impaired judgement......
     
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