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Put men in prison based only on the word of a woman?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by kazenatsu, Mar 30, 2022.

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Should a man be punished for rape when the only evidence is the testimony of the accuser?

  1. Yes, if a woman claims he raped her we should totally believe her

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  2. It depends. I would have to hear/see the testimony of the woman, and use my intuition

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  3. The man should only be punished with a few years in prison, because he might be innocent

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  4. No, the testimony of the alleged victim should not be enough evidence to convict a man of rape

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  1. Starcastle

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    I do not understand the thread because I'm not a biologist.
     
    Starcastle, Mar 31, 2022
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    What is a woman?
     
    Starcastle, Mar 31, 2022
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    Obviously in addition to the testimony of the person claiming rape you need corroborating evidence that places the man at the scene, places him with her.

    Unlike the Kavanagh accuser who could not say when or where. Only who and only when he was nominated for the SC.
     
    Starcastle, Mar 31, 2022
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously this thread was not meant to be gender-specific. I just used gender pronouns because they were more convenient and simplified the explanation of the issue.
    Those who focus on the gender are ignoring the issue this thread was meant to discuss.

    But anyway, I don't believe the issue of gender is totally irrelevant. Women are, in general, more emotional, and are probably more likely to resort to false accusations to attack another person than men would be.
     
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    All that can be said of any violent crime.

    I know the OP's history concerning women...
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 31, 2022
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, I know. I'm a misogynist because I defended the pro-life position and dared to stand in the way of a woman and her special "right".
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    ""Put men in prison based only on the word of a woman? """

    The underlined words say it all.....all sexism, "only " "a woman"....


    ""Put men in prison based only on the word of a woman? """

    The underlined words say it all.....all sexism, "only " "a woman"....

    Sorry, your "defense" of sexism doesn't work....he could have stated ""people put in prison based on only one witness's testimony.""

    But that wasn't the agenda, was it ? ;)......


    The "word of a woman" IS a woman's word....."only the word of a woman" is demeaning women.


    Uh, "" we have a man's innocence based only on a man's word.""

    Sorry, but I know the OP's history concerning women......and his agenda...
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 31, 2022
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    I obviously meant she reported the alleged rape soon afterwards.

    If she waited a long time to report it, that obviously adds a whole other layer of doubt and raises a different issue.

    (There are very valid reasons why statute of limitations laws exist for sexual assault)
     
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    Yes, that is true. I saw a documentary about a woman who was sexually assaulted by a home intruder who broke into her apartment. He was black, she was white. It was also dark and she could not get the clearest look at his face. To a lot of white people, the faces of minorities from other races kind of all look the same.
    The police showed her a picture of a suspect they had, and she thought the face kind of looked familiar but she wasn't entirely sure. Police pressured her to make an identification, otherwise they would not be able to prosecute the suspect they believed had raped her. Pressured by police, she ended up practically lying in court, saying that she was "sure" that was the man who had assaulted her, to make sure he would be convicted and go to prison. But later a DNA test revealed that man was not the man who had raped her. And then the woman admitted that she was not actually sure that was the man she had seen that night.
     
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    It wasn't obvious to me.
     
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    Sorry, I can't cover all the possible details in one simple post.

    You should have just assumed the simplest possible scenario.

    I know from past threads that if I cover too many details or make it too complicated, people will not want to go to the trouble of reading my post or thinking about it.
     
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    That's exactly what I did.
     
    mswan, Mar 31, 2022
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    It is a joke.
     
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    I think it’s wrong. I also don’t believe women who wait 30 years to speak about it.
     
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    That would be a whole separate issue.
    That is not what we are discussing here.
     
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    Yes but we recently had a judge accused of rape with absolutely no proof other than her account and a very large part of the populace bit that hook line and sinker. So it’s relatable
     
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    Not electing a politician or a judge is a little bit different from arresting a man and putting him in prison.
     
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    The average statute of limitations for forcible rape in the USA is 15 years. When some ditz comes along after 30 years and can only claim she was raped and by who but cannot tell the exact location or day the incident occurred or present a single witness to corroborate her story something is wrong.
     
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    We are not discussing that in this thread. That is not the issue.
     
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    In the case of Kavanaugh's conformation, the critics clearly did not care if his accuser was telling the truth or not.
     
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    you asked me, so I figured you did not know
     
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    Did not know what?
     
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    dang, had to go look to make sure it was really you that asked and that I was not mistaking you with another poster

     
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    I can't answer according to the options. I would say alleged rape should be investigated. If it is proved to be factual it should be prosecuted. If proved false, the supposed victim should serve the same sentence as a rapist.
     
    yabberefugee, Apr 1, 2022
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