Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Jazep

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    US billionaires will set their own prices for everything. If you refuse to buy at their price, then you will simply be killed and your relatives will have nowhere to appeal. Everywhere will be the power of only Washington.
     
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    My witness is my common sense. Why do we need a missile defense base if its existence time is only 2 minutes.
    So this is not a missile defense base. This is a base for a surprise attack on ground targets. So with nuclear warheads.
     
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    You seem to imagine that the US works the way Russia does. Have you ever left Russia and experienced what it's like in the free world?
     
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    A country with absolute world domination will not be an ordinary country. Absolute power breeds absolute immorality. So spoke the ancients and they knew a lot about it.
     
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    Your country is immorally invading a neighboring country, immorally destroying its cities, immorally slaughtering its people and immorally attempting to deprive them of their national sovereignty.
     
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    No need to help create a mortal threat to a neighbor from their territory. The existence of a US missile base in Poland, 200 kilometers from the Russian border, is clear evidence of the US plan to be the first to attack Russia.
     
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    Why? Why does the US want to attack Russia?
     
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    And slaughtering Ukrainians is going to prevent that?
     
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    World domination i tak dalee
     
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    Absolute world domination will make it possible to have any money.
    And who will refuse money?
     
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    Ukrainians want to help NATO destroy all Russians. There is no choice. If Russia leaves Ukraine, then tomorrow there will be several bases similar to bases in Poland and Romania. And they are suitable only for the first blow to the vital centers of Russia.
     
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    How would defeating Russia, a relatively poor country, enrich the United States? It would cost more to blow it up than it's worth.
     
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    If NATO wanted to destroy all Russians, why not do it now?

    You also seem to fail to grasp that NATO is a pact among many different countries is defensive in nature, so that no NATO member could simply decide to attack Russia or any other country and expect other NATO members to assist. Norway and Denmark are NATO members. You think they're plotting to destroy Russia? You think they would help if a rogue NATO member decided to "destroy" Russia in some manner?

    You post one absurdity after another.
     
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    No one is buying that bullshit.

    The U.S. has no interest, much less your imaginary plan, in striking Russia first. Everyone in Washington and throughout this country knows damned well that this would result in the annihilation of the planet and the human race.

    Evidently, you've never heard of the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction, so let me help you out:

    Mutual assured destruction (MAD)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

    Please, do yourself a favor and stop making yourself look like a credulous paranoid fool. I wouldn't wish that look on anyone...
     
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    We don't need absolute world domination to have any money. We are a nation blessed with rich natural, human and technological resources, and we were a wealthy nation before we became a world power in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries.

    And here's another thing, and as a Russian you should know this - being a super power has always required an enormous expense in blood and treasure, and that expense dragged the Soviet Union and many other nations and empires to their graves.

    As an American I can tell you that we need world domination like a hole in the head. When the USSR fell and the bipolar power dynamics of the post-WWII/Cold War ended we were overjoyed at the prospect of being able to step into a new multi-polar world order that demanded less of our people and economy but f*ck ups like Putin keep screwing those hopes and plans up.

    And isn't that ironic? Your Dear Leader Vladimir Vladimirovich is the one who is not only uniting the alliance he wanted to destroy, he is forcing the United States to maintain its post-WWII/Cold War position in the world.

    What a stupid motherf*cker, and his stupidity is going to cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of Russians their lives. It's appalling, and if you thought Afghanistan was fun you ain't seen nothing yet. Your country and its country is going to BLEED for Putin's mistake.

    Some people never learn....
     
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    Helos are in.
    ". . . As of Tuesday night, two sources said helicopters had been removed from the assistance list, though Biden said in his statement they were ultimately included. Ukraine had initially asked the White House at the last minute not to send the helicopters, indicating they wanted more time to assess whether they'd be useful. But during Wednesday's phone call, Zelensky told Biden his country needed them, so they were put back in the package, a source familiar with the matter said. . . . "
     
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    Steinmeier has been notably pro-Putin in the past.
     
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    You can be certain we had no interest in attacking Russia, until now. And if this continues you will have the entire Western World at your throats.

    Russians are quickly becoming the most hated people on the planet.
     
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    I certainly hope so, but this administration is making a bad habit of backtracking on the president's words.
     
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    The Soviets couldn't shut down the samizdat networks that used to operate in the CCCP - there's no way the old KGB agent can completely shut down the flow of information in Russia.
     
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    The missiles at that base are part of a limited anti-missile defense system. They're also limited in number. A such they can't be used to 'attack' anything with the possible exception of aircraft. That said NATO hasn't amassed anywhere near enough forces close to the Russian border to contemplate invading even a small portion of Russia! And that's even if it wanted to, which it doesn't. Why bother? Prior to the invasion of Ukraine the West got everything they needed from Russia (except good political relations) simply by engaging in trade, which is waaaay easier and more civilized than trying to fight for 'it'.

    Yes the West 'wants' a friendly, democratic and law abiding Russia, but that's up to Russia itself to produce organically. Invading, even if it was possible which it isn't because we don't have the manpower, the will (and there's those little things called nuclear weapons in the way) would not give the West a 'friendly and democratic' Russia - it would have the opposite effect. Exactly how 'friendly' do you think Ukraine is going to be with Russia after this war ends? So stop being so paranoid, no one wants your precious Rodina enough to be bothered dying for it.
     
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    Yup .. very important - part of why our friend Vlad invaded.
     
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