DeSantis moves against Disney with push to eliminate special status for Florida theme park

You must think school administrators are interested in getting rid of bad teachers and cameras will give them the evidence they need. You also must think you can spot a bad teacher and even that administrators know who is bad.

You don't know much about teachers' unions.

You extreme rightwingers won't like what will inevitably happen when they turn on the cameras.

Parents don't want cameras in the classroom.

Your rightwing friends.

Proving you have absolutely no idea how much teachers actually work.

You don't like what you hear from a teacher who isn't a liberal about public education.

As if I didn't know.

I doubt that. But they won't be for long.

 

You don't live in the real world if you think primary students are being groomed by teachers.

Are you too darn lazy to read the bill? This is the part of the law doing the damage:

"If a concern is not resolved by the school district, a parent may:
(I) Request the Commissioner of Education to appoint a special magistrate who is a member of The Florida Bar in good standing and who has at least 5 years’ experience in administrative law. The special magistrate shall determine facts relating to the dispute over the school district procedure or practice, consider information provided by the school district, and render a recommended decision for resolution to the State Board of Education within 30 days after receipt of the request by the parent. The State Board of Education must approve or reject the recommended decision at its next regularly scheduled meeting that is more than 7 calendar days and no more than 30 days after the date the recommended decision is transmitted. The costs of the special magistrate shall be borne by the school district. The State Board of Education shall adopt rules, including forms, necessary to implement this subparagraph.
(II) Bring an action against the school district to obtain a declaratory judgment that the school district procedure or practice violates this paragraph and seek injunctive relief. A court may award damages and shall award reasonable attorney fees and court costs to a parent who receives declaratory or injunctive relief."​

http://laws.flrules.org/2022/22

Lawyers decide about how teachers teach. What's taught is the curriculum and that's set down by the state and school district,

You haven't run out of BS.

 

If school administrators are NOT interested in getting rid of bad teachers, that, all by itself, is a serious, serious problem. Though I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's true, they are more worried about having each other's backs and making sure nobody loses their job (even if they deserve it) than they are in properly executing their duties. You also must think you can spot a bad teacher and even that administrators know who is bad.

I'm not an extreme right-winger, not that that matters, nor do I know what you think will "inevitably happen", but whatever happens represents actual accountability and increased transparency. You say parents don't want that, but the only evidence you've provided of that is just expecting us to "take your word for it", and I think you're full of sh*t. If doggie parents want to check in on their dogs during the day, and they do, I expect human parents would want and expect the same.

If I were a parent I would march myself down to the school board meeting and demand cameras in classrooms, and since I'm forced to pay for schools I don't use or benefit from, ultimately at the business end of a gun, I've been considering doing it despite my child-free status.

It is becoming commonplace for employers to monitor their employees via video surveillance, and teachers had best make peace with it, because it's not a matter of if, just when.

 

Are you an anti-vaxxer? If Biden failed with the vaccine, it's that he didn't get more people to take it. The vaccines save lives and keep people our of the hospital.

Huh?

My position has been that people who want to wear masks should use P100 respirators...

I guess you don't like hearing that there are some rightwing extremists supporting Putin.

 

You've made this claim at least a couple of times, but haven't offered any actual evidence to support it. Do you have any (and preferably something recent, taking into account that COVID caused a bunch of schools to do a whole lot more remote learning than ever before and parents got a lot more used to the idea of their kids being on camera with their teachers through-out that)?

Why don't you elaborate on this a bit and explain to us why you think "extreme" rightwingers won't like it. What's "inevitable"? You've clearly got something in mind, but it's unpersuasive to be purposefully vague and ominous-sounding about it.

 

Well then why don't you tell me what's wrong with my thinking.

 

Is it really hard not to talk about sex with 5-8 year olds?

 

It's often laced into those drugs which is what kills them.

 

Riiiight.

Kids being sexually abused at school is a myth.

Is anyone who believes they are being abused a threat to democracy?

 

Sure. They're a fact.

But talking to kids about it is not a right you have.

Looks like you're having trouble with staying in your lane at work.

 

Parents don't need your opinions on their kids emotional needs. They just need you to teach your subject.

Maybe if teachers spent more time teaching kids things they need to know half the country wouldn't be basically illiterate.

I'll make it simple for you.

You have an approved curriculum and teaching plan. Stay inside that.

Anything else is just you wanting to imprint your feelings onto kids. Parents aren't interested.

 

Right.

It's abusive that teachers can't talk to kids ages 5-8 about sexual subjects.

The struggle is real.

 

In my defense it's pretty obvious how you feel about it.

I know, let's take a poll.

Hey look at that, we agree that school vouchers are a good thing.

 

Right, don't want any 1st grade parking lot rumbles after school.

By "walling off" you mean like teaching alternative history like 1619 project?

I don't remember sexuality being covered in history when I was a kid. Maybe you could explain how you twist sexuality into history lessons.

You acknowledge things by telling kids to be respectful, mind their own business, and if they have questions they should go to their real parents. That's how.

Most teachers are not qualified mental health professionals, are they? No, they just want to put their 2 cents in.

We're not interested.

 

Well it's nice to know that you make judgement calls on the kids in your class to determine if they are worthy of you doing your job.

I really want to thank you for shining a personal light on how bad teacher's attitudes are in this country.

Sounds to me like you should be worried about your job.

 

Well allow me to try harder then.

Let's see if I can understand this.

So (and correct me if I'm wrong here), a parent could sue the school district for the school district's procedures or practices that allow talking to kids in K-3 about sexual topics.

How's that interpretation?

I know. Don't talk to kids about sex from K-3.

I'm sorry you're having a hard time not doing that.

 

You will know them by their fruits.

 

Welcome to the real world.

That's not why admin doesn't go after ineffective teachers. Teachers are fired for drinking on the job, molesting students, but seldom for being lousy.

Sometimes. I sponsored student government and was in and out of most classrooms as a result. When I would go into a classroom and students stopped throwing things, it says something.

They know because I was on the union executive and admin wanted to know how we would react to them writing someone up. I was also the union official representing most teachers.

Cameras will be rejected by many parents because they don't want to chance their kid being caught on tape saying something that could dog him or her years in the future.

I don't care if you believe me or not.

They may change their mind when they see how their child's teachers react. Or that teachers quit.

You must be smart enough to know you benefit from living in a country with an educated workforce.

You don't pay enough to get qualified STEM teachers to put up with this crap.

 

The popularity of TikTok would seem to readily illustrate the absurdity of your position here.

 

Your accusation is sicko stuff.

 

Yes, it's don'ttalktokidsaboutsex thirty.

 

My accusation of directly quoting something you said as evidence?

Good luck with that argument.

 

Being in a zoom meeting (or its like) doesn't necessarily mean any participants are being recorded. To record the meeting, each participant (or their parents) would have to agree to it. In the case of k-12, any such recording would then become part of the educational record of each student involved and subject to laws regarding privacy.

 

The state municipal zone can still charge Disney higher fees to be able to pay back the debt.

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In some states it may be a legal requirement to get consent from all involved, but it's certainly not a technology limit. Every kid with a cell phone can point it at the computer screen and hit record during any and all zoom meetings. And there are probably a dozen other ways to record a zoom meeting outside of Zoom itself.