14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    So it is thought of as a conspiracy by some?
    How long before the next one?
    There have been 233 mass shootings in America so far this year, I could be wrong but that is closing in on two a day.
    So there ought to be another one along in a minute.
    Great news for weapons manufacturers, but a poor showing by gun lovers who have not put an end to this by use of their weapons of ‘protection’.
    What do you think the next one will be?
    A gang conflict?
    A domestic?
    A Church?
    A school?
    A supermarket?
    A sports event?
    An outdoor event of some kind?
    …or something else.
    Gun owners, what would be your gun of choice for each event?
     
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    There hasn't been one in à rest home for a while.
    "If covid didn't get you, we will".
    Shall you arm all residents in à rest/retirement/convelescent home?
    It might double as a crutch if you add à handy accessory. Maybe get à free hearing aid if you buy within the month.
     
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    Just goes to show you how completely dishonest CNN is. Even the source I quoted that was 15,000 less than yours is counting up to 19 years old.

    But they are both left-wing sources for you so go figure.

    And in light of your previous post I reserve the right to remain skeptical of your numbers without a source
     
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    How many of those mass shootings were by white people?
     
  5. philosophical

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    Don’t know.
    But 100% of them involved guns.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the Guardian - it's a left wing publication but I take this report as FACTUAL. Challenge me if you aren't convinced.
    Why did the doctor ask if we have a gun in the house at my toddler’s checkup? Because this is America
    Arwa Mahdawi

    A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I took my daughter to a paediatrician in Philadelphia for her one-year checkup. It was all very routine until, squeezed between a discussion about weaning and a question about baby gates, the paediatrician asked if we had a gun in the house. I was so taken aback by the idea that I might casually keep a glock in my knicker drawer that I burst out laughing. “She’s from England,” my wife, also somewhat taken aback, explained. “They’re not used to guns.” The paediatrician gave a sad smile. “I know it’s terrible, but I do have to ask,” she said. “This is America.”

    Once we got home from the appointment, I looked up whether it really was normal for paediatricians to ask about guns, or if we just had a very vigilant doctor. It turns out that, yes, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that firearm safety is discussed with patients and families. Which makes sense in a country where there are more guns than people and where people get accidentally shot by toddlers on a weekly basis. This is the US – where guns are the leading cause of death for children age one and older, and where the state of Texas restricts dildo ownership (it’s illegal to own more than six dildos) but lets people carry a handgun without licensing or training.


    Also, uniquely American? The fact that some people seem to think that paediatricians asking about guns isn’t an indictment of American values, but an infringement of their liberties. In 2010, a woman in Florida was outraged over her kids’ doctor asking this “invasive” question, and helped set into motion a years-long legal saga known as “the docs versus the glocks”. The National Rifle Association (NRA) lobbied to get Florida to pass a law called the Firearm Owners’ Privacy Act, which prevented doctors from asking about gun ownership except in certain circumstances. If a doctor did raise the gun question, they risked losing their licence, and a $10,000 fine. This turned into a protracted lawsuit (the only thing the US loves as much as its guns is lawsuits), and, eventually, a court ruled that preventing doctors from discussing guns violated their freedom of speech. Which was a small win for sanity: now doctors don’t have to worry about losing their jobs if they tell their patients that keeping automatic weapons in their coat closet might be dangerous.

    My trip to the paediatrician was obviously not the first time I realised that the US has a dysfunctional relationship with firearms. However, talking about shooting while your toddler is getting their shots made the gun situation suddenly feel a lot more personal; I left that doctors appointment feeling very sick indeed. Did I really want to raise my kid in a country obsessed with the right to own deadly weapons? Was it irresponsible to voluntarily bring a child up in a place where 95% of public (state) schools carry out active shooter drills? A country where kids as young as three rehearse what to do if a gunman bursts into their classroom? The UK isn’t perfect by any means, but at least kids aren’t taught to prepare for the very real possibility their classroom might become a killing field.


    Because this is the US, those questions didn’t have a chance to recede. Shortly after the appointment, 10 people were murdered at a Buffalo, New York, supermarket, allegedly by an 18-year-old white supremacist. About a week later, 19 little children and two teachers were murdered in their Texas classroom by another 18-year-old. On Sunday, six minors were shot in Chattanooga, Tennessee. On Monday, a 10-year-old boy in Florida was arrested after threatening to shoot up a school. It never stops. And there seems to be no hope that it’s going to stop any time soon, either. The US supreme court is about to issue its first major ruling on gun rights in over a decade – but the conservative court is widely expected to expand gun rights and make it harder for cities and states to restrict the concealed carry of firearms. For the rest of the world, looking on in horror after the Texas massacre, this is insanity. For conservatives, this is the US.

    • Arwa Mahdawi is a Guardian columnist
     
  7. Buri

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    thats completely illogical. The more good guys with weapons, the safer we are. This is a US thing, you wouldn’t understand as a subject to your gov.
     
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    Mind the projection, dude.
     
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    yes. Every country that has been disarmed now has subjects instead of citizens. They now now to their gov, instead of the gov bowing to the citizens.
    We will not be drawn down that imbecilic path to tyranny by people who can’t think for themselves and need a nanny for safety.
    I can’t even imagine being so simple I’d give away my life and freedom for nothing. You’re not free, you live on your knees before your gov.
    They can do anything they want and you can do nothing about it.
     
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    No, it’s a car. More children die in car accidents, but this is about controlling others and not about actually doing anything.
     
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    Britain, France, Canada most of Europe, Japan, most of Asia not Chinese? They all have no freedom because they aren't armed to the teeth?

    And OUR freedom depends upon how able we are to murder our government officials and representatives and how willing we are to start shooting cops and mailmen

    OOOOkay (starts sidling to the door and looking for the nut control button)
     
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    Of course that makes perfect sense.

    And just as logical as this BabylonBee satire analogy.

    "Lifeguard Waits An Hour For Backup Before Jumping In To Save Struggling Swimmer"

    SAN FERNANDO, CA—A lifeguard at the San Fernando Community Pool reportedly refused to jump in and save a drowning child who was fighting for his life in 6 feet of water because it would constitute risking his life. The lifeguard in question, Peter Stroll, claimed to be following standard lifeguarding procedure.

    "Are you kidding? I can't save you right now. I might drown!" said Stroll as he picked up the phone to call for help. "According to the procedure, I will block all access to the pool and call for highly trained Coast Guard rescue divers to arrive."

    The child's father attempted to jump into the pool and save his kid but was prevented by the determined lifeguard.

    "Sir, I can't let you risk your own life. Let me do my job!" Stroll reportedly said in between whistle blows.

    "Then do your job! Save him!" pleaded the parent.

    "Sir, please. It's a liability for me to risk my life. Do you know how much the city would have to pay my family? Hundreds of dollars!"

    https://babylonbee.com/news/lifegua...-6-feet-deep-and-he-would-be-risking-his-life


    Also did you know?

    Uvalde Schools Locked Down at Least 48 Times This Academic Year

    Here are excerpts from the Breitbart article on the 48 lockdowns:

    “The Uvalde public school district is no stranger to campus lockdowns. In October 2021, Mayor Don McLaughlin reported the district had been forced into lockdowns 48 times during the first few months of the school year, largely due to human smuggler pursuits near campuses.”

    “At the time, Uvalde Mayor McLaughlin joined with a commission of local government representatives of Kinney and Uvalde Counties to demand action from the Texas Department of Emergency Management (TDEM) regarding the growing border crisis, Breitbart Texas’ Randy Clark reported. The county and city officials detailed the consequential impact of the border crisis on local resources.”

    “The mayor told TDEM officials that Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District officials had to lock down schools ‘48 times this year due to high-speed pursuits and migrants fleeing from law enforcement’.”

    Clark reported in October 2021:

    “Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin told the TDEM the region needs refrigerated facilities to hold deceased migrants. ‘I can’t send local decedents from our community to San Antonio because our facilities are full–that is unacceptable,’ McLaughlin said.”

    “McLaughlin told the TDEM his community dispatched all six available ambulances on one occasion to treat migrants in need of care at the local rail yard. That left residents with impaired emergency response capabilities for most of the day. McLaughlin says local schools have been locked down 48 times this year due to high-speed pursuits and migrants fleeing law enforcement in his city.”

    “McLaughlin said local law enforcement is dealing with armed smugglers and migrants with convictions including murder and sex offenses. ‘When the Haitian crisis was going on, the border leading to our city was wide open, there appears to be no end in sight, we need help and answers,’ he explained.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/20...ed-down-at-least-48-times-this-academic-year/


    So…very young schoolchildren are locked down almost once a week, because of danger from fleeing illegal immigrants.

    lol


     
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    Let's see, in the UK you can get arrested for facebook posts and that's not free. In France you get arrested for defending your life-just like in the UK- so that's definitely not free at all. Japan is a homgenous country with no crime and no toxic black culture so they've solved a huge problem-not the suicide problem of course. The rest of Europe and the chinese? LOL, that's the exact opposite of free! They can't even say anything about their gov or get arrested!

    Sure. I can see why you'd like to live that way, in a cage with no control and living on your knees like a servant to the gov.
     
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    A country that is supposed to be the home of the brave (everywhere is a land of the free…only restrictions exist, freedom does not) it is not brave enough to take the difficult steps to disarm.
    I reckon there’s too much money in the American gun death cult for the greedy capitalists to give it up.
    I mean, what’s the death of schoolchildren when there’s money to be made?
    There will be another massacre soon, the same things will be said, more people will be dead.
    Rinse and repeat.
     
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    The election theft of 2020, the FAKED “pandemic’, the wide-open borders, cancellation of key oil projects, destruction of the food growing infrastructure, destruction of the shipping infrastructure, September 11, 2001, their “killer mRNA vaccine” , insane mandates to cause havoc and divisiveness - these are the acts of an ENEMY and if people running these pseudo governments are never indicted and prosecuted for "crimes against humanity" then this nation and others are just nothing but a big fat ruse!

    This psychotic deeds are all done on purpose as acts of war against the American people and the global citizens.

    FACT
     
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    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    Toxic black culture?
    So what aspects of black culture are not toxic? Or is it everything?
     
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    Working at Wendy's I think the story said.

    With so much spending money in his pocket, I think I'll go down and apply to work there. :knifefork:
     
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    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    FACT no less!
    It is funny reading this rubbish.
    FACT.
     
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    Did I write this to you? If South Australia had American death rate from Covid we would have had 7,500 dead.
    Until our borders were opened last year we had just TWO deaths. I had shares in Moderna and did well. Their
    mRNA vaccine is good, probaby the safest vaccine in the world. And mRNA is going to be the medicine of the
    future - it's effective, teaches your immune system to recognize new proteins, and leaves the body quickly.
    I have had FOUR of these mRNA vax, targetting different Covid variants.
    There's no divisiveness in South Australia, either on Covid shots or guns. We don't want either. And oh, we are
    into seat belts too - don't give a damn about 'rights.'
    And I worked as a poll official for federal election two weeks back. We counted how many people entered the
    polling station, how many ballot papers we had and then afterwards how many voted. We worked till 10.30 that
    night, checking and re-checking. At one election we spent to 2.30 because we couldn't tally the results correctly.
    I love the truth and fairness of elections. People died to give us this.
     
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    I was responding to your Post #2937, obviously.... But now I've come to understand that you're an Australian... and from what I've, uh, heard, I do like some of your methodologies for dealing with "Criminals and Crazies" down-under. The 'story' goes that more than a few of your home-grown dangerous creatures are provided free, one-way trips to Australia's vast, hellish interior regions, where they sort of 'blend-in' with the landscape. "G'day", indeed! 8)
     
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    Denying the very obvious Inconvenient Truth is futile.
    The Taliban won, the US and its allies lost.

    NEWSWEEK , The Taliban Won Afghanistan's Civil War. But Will it Win the Peace? BY DANIEL R. DEPETRIS , FELLOW, DEFENSE PRIORITIES 9/3/21.
    https://www.newsweek.com/taliban-won-afghanistans-civil-war-will-it-win-peace-opinion-1625589

    The whole world was watching. Learn from history or repeat it.



    Many similar videos are now censored on Youtube.
     
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    Black culture is not toxic in and of itself. But there are toxic PARTS of black culture that are the problem and they'll admit it. Things like 70% of households having a single parent (not learning values like empathy and having family structure) and revering thug rap artists and athletes who brag about their crimes against not only each other but women and the police. There's no push for education and being good in school isn't a priority, there's a welfare-life mentality and a LOT of victimhood.

    Those parts. Ever notice there are not many asian criminals out doing these things? Their heroes are mathaletes, they're worried about college, and their tiger moms are pushing them to be better. That's why they're not 13% of the US who commit 54% of ALL MURDERS.
     
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    Which is irrelevant. Focus: "14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting"

    A blunderbuss, a mortar, would be far more deadly if used in a schools shooting or against any other group of helpless disarmed victims. Do you know what a mortar is?
     
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    You did not make distinctions when referencing Japan.
    So are you able to identify parts of what you call black culture that are not toxic?
     
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    As opposed to the "trained police" who would not stop the shooter in Uvalde? Think it through.
     
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