Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    The criminal codes signed off on require either classification or intent to harm america
     
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    Lol no it wasn’t the search warrant gives them essentially carte blanch to take what they want. It is the epitome of illegal.
     
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    So, no-on so far has commented on what I regard as the smoking gun which would have triggered the Judge into issuing the Warrant (it would have triggered me, for sure.)

    Why, in the many boxes returned to Authority in January 2021, was there a seemingly deliberate intermingling of inane crap with sensitive material? Looks to me like someone has quite deliberately tried to hide the needles in a hay stack, but did not do a good enough job.
     
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    Oi!!!!!!! The Humpty trope is MINE, I tells ya, MINE!!!! Send royalty cheque please!

    :)
     
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    That’s a moronic conclusion. If he was going to do that why the **** would he leave them at his house where they just told him they KNEW they were there?

    Why not take them somewhere else or at least not leave them in boxes marked classified lol

    The more likely scenario is they were packed by someone other than trump who put them in the same documents as personal items because they didn’t know any better. And most likely trump wouldn’t have even known they were there.
     
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    As a declassification virtuoso, did he by any chance declassify his Tax Returns?:lol::lol:
     
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    Reminder:

    This affidavit does not include anything seized during 8-8-22.
    The 8/8 haul was what Trump held back in Jan.2022 and June 2022 from turning over to NARA and the FBI.
    Add 8/8 to ongoing investigation/witnesses


    "CONCLUSION"

    79. Based on the foregoing facts and circumstances, I submit that probable cause exists
    to believe that evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation
    18 U.S.C. §§ 793(e), 2071, or 1519 will be found at the PREMISES. Further, I submit that this
    affidavit supports probable cause for a warrant to search the PREMISES described in Attachment
    A and seize the items described in Attachment B.

    REQUEST FOR SEALING

    80. It is respectfully requested that this Court issue an order sealing, until further order
    of the Court, all papers submitted in support of this application, including the application and
    search warrant.

    I believe that sealing this document is necessary because the items and
    information to be seized are relevant to an ongoing investigation and the FBI has not yet identified
    all potential criminal confederates nor located all evidence related to its investigation.

    Premature disclosure of the contents of this affidavit and related documents may have a significant and
    negative impact on the continuing investigation and may severely jeopardize its effectiveness by
    allowing criminal parties an opportunity to flee, destroy evidence (stored electronically and
    otherwise), change patterns of behavior, and notify criminal confederates."


    Read the unsealed redacted Mar-a-Lago affidavit - POLITICO
     
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    You sound like Trump talking about highly classified documents that he failed to declassify and then tried to conceal from the FBI and the National Archives :)
     
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    For what purpose?

    What’s the motive?
     
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    Read what I said more carefully.
     
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    Why would he attempt to “hide a needle in a haystack” when he could just send it somewhere else? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard about this whole fiasco lol
     
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    When it comes to Trump, that is often an enigma.
     
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    :roflol:


    and:
    'I never played Mario Kart"
     
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    Frankly, with the organizational skills this man had, plus anybody he hires, it's amazing they bothered with boxes and didn't just use the "College Freshman Move Out" technique of Hefty bags....

    Not sure I see the smocking gun there... it just proves he doesn't distinguish between our Nations Security and Golf Digest...

    What I'd like to know is if the FBI has determined if there is a copy machine at the resort. If there is, we're all screwed.... EVERYBODY gets a copy!
     
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    Check this out, by Marcy Wheeler

    The Elements of the Offense for an 18 USC 793e Prosecution - emptywheel


    A poster is on your wavelength.

    Peterrsays:
    August 26, 2022 at 5:02 pm

    Marcy: "Did the defendant have reason to believe the information could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation?

    Trump is such a psychopath that the answer to this might normally be in question. After all, he routinely treated top secret intelligence like it was toilet paper or party favors for visiting Russians. But because of that June meeting, they will likely be able to reach that, as well.'

    Peter:
    "This is where the reference in paragraph 47 to some documents having additional notes in what appears to be Trump’s handwriting could come into play as well. If those notes indicate that Trump understood the gravity of the documents — “Can’t let the Chinese see this!” or “This spy could be killed if this got out!” — then the notes themselves may hang Trump out to dry on this question."
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Oprah!
     
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    How did the stuff get to be at Mar-a-Lago?
     
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    Nope! Trump knew what he had and had no intention of giving them up.

    The NARA was trying to get document/papers etc back from Trump before he left the White House.
    Mark Meadows, Trump's COS was contacted by the NARA to get them and he proved useless, as usual.

    After Trump had them stashed at Mar a Largo the NARA turned to Trump's representatives for his Presidential Papers, Pat Cipollone and his deputy Philben for help getting them and it was a fruitless endeavor.

    btw: You should know these facts by now.


     
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    Yep
     
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    Then why didn’t they take them when they took other boxes from his home in June if they knew he had them?

    Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
     
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    Because Trump & Co handed over to the FBI what they claimed to be the last of the classified documents which turned out to be a lie.
    Trump's 2 lawyers wrote up an affidavit that they had no more and Christiana Bobb signed it.
    The FBI didn't have a search warrant and took what was given to them.

    btw: You should know this too.
     
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    ShadowX said:
    "The criminal codes signed off on require either classification or intent to harm america"

    Again nope!
    Educate yourself with Neal Katyal

    You'll be walked through all the criminal codes in the FBI search warrant, takes 5 mins.
    Then maybe you'll know what you're talking about, hopefully.

    Reminder..these "probable causes" were before the 8-8-22 seize so it can only get worse for Trump.

    You're welcome!

     
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    It's not a matter of me being happy.

    It's a matter of law, plain and simple.

    The amount of pure evidence against citizen Trump is absolutely crushing. He's a criminal with a mob mentality.

    I read the redacted affadavit. He's toast.

    If the Republican party expects to survive, it must eject him.
     
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