School board meeting cut short as protests over LGBTQ books grow unruly

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  1. Battle3

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    You don’t even read your own articles, no surprise you won’t read one that disproves your religion.
     
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    Counseling. Most of the trans kids come with psychological problems and are unhappy. They are tricked into believing their unhappiness is caused by being trans. Fix the real problems and they won't start mangling their bodies. Get rid of gender ideology in schools. Nobody would get the idea that they are trans if they never heard of the concept. Ban the use of puberty blockers which damage the body by themselves and lead the child onto the path of permanent bodily damage.
     
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    How did you come to the conclusion that if “gender ideology” was banned in school then no one would believe they are trans?

    People have been trans throughout history and in every type of society even when the punishment was death.
     
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    You would need to prove that before you can assert is as fact and create laws around it.

    I know quite a few gay / bi people and zero of them have ever said that it was a choice.
     
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    There are plenty of church’s that openly welcome gay people and even officiate homosexual weddings. It is next to impossible to know if someone or an organization represents the true word of God or if they worship at the alter of religious bigotry and hate.
     
  6. Battle3

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    OK then you agree that you need to prove homosexuality is normal before creating laws around it?
     
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    That’s not what I wrote.

    I’ll repeat, read carefully -
    why would someone want to join a church that has values antithetical to his, where he will be surrounded by people he does not like and they don’t really like him, where he won’t fit in? Particularly when there are plenty of other churches that do share his values and will love to have him?
     
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    Normal means conforming to the standard, usual

    So we should be able to erase black and red haired people from all pieces of literature in schools? You are the one advocating for discrimination — there must be a public interest to do so. Thus far you have been unable to provide one.
     
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    Let's stay with reality. There is ZERO scientific evidence that homosexuality is genetic (or even accident of birth). I challenge you to confront that reality, to help get yourself past this false idea.
     
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    And again, some of these institutions don’t publicize their beliefs until they encounter one of the gays. Too bad these places didn’t react the same when it was their members raping children.
     
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    Not nobody, but many fewer. I come to that conclusion because the number of trans kids has exploded in concert with the promotion of gender theory.

    And interestingly enough, throughout history most gender disphoric people were men but nowadays the dysphoric are mostly girls. I find that fact interesting insofar as girls tend to fall victim to other self destructive fads such as anorexia and cutting.
     
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    There are tons of studies actually
    https://www.science.org/content/article/homosexuality-may-start-womb

    https://academic.oup.com/book/9450/chapter-abstract/156344431?redirectedFrom=fulltext

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000330094644.htm

    https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-319-19650-3_3371

    If it was proven that homosexuality was image, would you support banning all discrimination against them in both public and private settings? Allowing them to be in children’s books? Ending bans on them adopting children?

    Or is the complaining it isn’t “natural” just a smokescreen for the obvious bigotry?
     
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    I definitely agree than schools need to walk a fine line between teaching acceptance or tolerance and pushing an agenda. Bans only further marginalize already marginalized groups.
     
  14. Battle3

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    No, you are teh one who said there must be proof a trait has a physical cause before passing laws about it. There no proof of a physical cause for homosexuality - not genetic, anatomical, evolutionary, chemical - so we must not pass laws about homosexuality.

    No laws requiring employment protection or housing or marriage.

    Thats YOUR arguement.
     
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    You fail to answer the question. Your answer has nothing to do with the question I asked.

    Why would a homosexual want to join a church that has views antithetical to that persons beliefs? As you and I agree, there are plenty of churches who hold beliefs totally compatible with homosexuality where the person would fit in and be welcomed. Why would he want to skip all those churches and go to a church where he will not fit in at all?
     
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    Discriminatory laws.
    If you want “no” laws and will allow schools to set their own policy then that is acceptable also.

    Deal?
     
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    I haven’t seen an instance where one has where they did not have another attachment or prior membership.
     
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    Local control of schools? No teachers union or feds sticking their noses in the curriculum? Parents in control? I’ve been arguing for that for decades.
     
  19. Battle3

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    You still dodge, it’s a simple question. Answer it.
     
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    So when some ban whites, others ban blacks and religious characters are wiped away you will say this is what America needs?
     
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    I cannot presume to take a position about a hypothetical person wanting to work for a hypothetical church. I have no idea what this imaginary persons motives may be.

    Was this individual previously involved with the church, have their beliefs changed, were their relatives involved, are they looking to launch a frivolous lawsuit, are their other local alternatives, are the able to reason, …?

    Do you have any clue how many scenarios are possible here? Pick the one that fits your narrative though.

    Why would a religious private business open to the public in an area that has strict public accommodation laws for the lgbt community? (This one really happened)
     
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    You lefties always exaggerate so far you look ridiculous.

    Overall the vast majority of schools will teach the straight academics. I expect there will be some schools that are male only, female only, some that require an entrance exam, etc.

    Nobody going back to Jim Crow or anything like it except maybe in democrat strongholds.
     
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    So you refuse to answer such a simple question, no doubt because if you answer it you unravel your entire ideology.
     
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    Oh you are one of the “racism” doesn’t exist types.

    That’s fascinating

    You must have missed the segregated graduations and pushes to make certain parts of campus off limits to certain races.

    I guess that deflates your point though so here come the personal remarks. How pathetically typical.
     
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    I understand some deeply struggle with nuance.

    No — I cannot answer what the deep seated beliefs of your hypothetical character is. Why don’t you just tell me what you have made them up to be so we can move on to actual events instead of your imagined beliefs?
     

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