School board meeting cut short as protests over LGBTQ books grow unruly

So you don’t have an issue with gay characters, you have an issue with a single position?

Can you expound on what you feel that single position is?

 

That homosexuality is normal. It is not.

There is nothing in anatomy, genetics, evolution, chemistry, that points to homosexuality being normal. If you took 1,000 homosexuals who died of natural causes or accident and had any physician or geneticist or coroner examine them, they would have to say they were all heterosexual and that humans were heterosexual.

The overwhelming majority of humanity throughout history have been heterosexual, every society and empire and nation has been heterosexual. Some had overt homosexual people but those people were the exception.

Further, homosexual sex requires men to use their anatomy in ways it was obviously not made to be used.

All you can say is that some small segment of people like homosexual activities. Its completely a mental attitude.

And you cannot give any arguement that cannot be applied to sociopathy, just replace "homosexual" with "sociopath". About 4% of the population are sociopaths, most function well within society without medical treatment, another group needs and receives treatment and functions well, there is no physical test to determine they are a sociopath, your neighbor could be one and you might say he is a fine person. Yet sociopathy is clearly not normal, and no psychologist will say its normal.

You want to call homosexuality normal because "homosexuals exist in our society".

How about - if you are honest - you call sociopathy normal because "sociopaths exist in our society".

 

DEFLECTION, FALSE PREMISE, FAKE CLAIM
And you can't point to a single claim made by me that gay or making a gay character has anything to do with Pedophilia.
Or you would provide it.
Sorry, your assumptions don't count.

DEFLECTION, FALSE PREMISE, FAKE CLAIM
I didn't claim that. I said ratings are provided so parents can make decisions about their children.

DEFLECTION, FALSE PREMISE, FAKE CLAIM
You have no right to decide what I want my children to be taught.

DEFLECTION, FALSE PREMISE, FAKE CLAIM
I never claimed anything close to that.

DEFLECTION, FALSE PREMISE, FAKE CLAIM
I guess you don't get out much
Florida governor signs bill limiting LGBTQ instruction in schools
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fl...imiting-lgbtq-instruction-schools-2022-03-28/
What’s Driving the Push to Restrict Schools on LGBTQ Issues?
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/whats-driving-the-push-to-restrict-schools-on-lgbtq-issues/2022/04
Muslim Parents Revolt at School Board Meeting Over Sexually-Explicit LGBT Agenda
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/1...ng-over-sexually-explicit-lgbt-agenda-n643058
Parents stand up to 'cult' Loudoun County School board over transgender student policy
https://www.foxnews.com/media/paren...ounty-school-board-transgender-student-policy
MassResistance parent has additional successes against LGBT agenda in California elementary school district!
https://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen3/19a/MR-CA-Shanda-Anaheim/school-board-wins.html
Parents are scoring victories against LGBT ideologues who want to corrupt their children
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...deologues-who-want-to-corrupt-their-children/
Parents Challenge ‘Radical’ LGBT Curriculum in New Jersey Schools
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/01...adical-lgbt-curriculum-in-new-jersey-schools/
Parents against LGBT lessons in school 'being pushed into corner
https://news.sky.com/story/parents-against-lgbt-lessons-in-school-being-pushed-into-corner-11731820
3 Reasons Why Many Schools Won’t Offer LGBT Curriculum
https://www.edweek.org/education/op...ny-schools-wont-offer-lgbt-curriculum/2015/07
Parents Are Going on Offensive to Fight Indoctrination in Education
https://www.heritage.org/education/...oing-offensive-fight-indoctrination-education

You're not selling anyone with your lefty wokeness indoctrination ideas.
But we do recognize your willingness to put children at risk for your woke ideologies.

 

It does not matter if *you* believe one or both a real or myth or just mental attitudes, people live their lives based on those attitudes.

What is the difference between a person living their life based on homosexuality and another living based on a religion?

 

We actually agree on something. "ignore those that just don't get it." is simple live and let live. Everyone just live their lives, don't bother each other, accept people are different and don't try to make them live according to your beliefs.

Surprised? Thats because you are full of all kinds of biases.

I'm a Christian, homosexuality is a sin, you will never convince me otherwise. That does not mean I hate them or want to force them to change, and in the public arena I am civil and respectful if they are civil and respectful. I tolerate them, but I don't have to accept their life style - just as I expect them to tolerate me even if they don't accept my lifestyle. I won't have a homosexual couple over for dinner, but I don't have a problem working with a homosexual person.

You leave me alone and live your life, I'll do the same for you. Very simple and thats how civil societies operate.

 

I said you keep bringing it up. Sorry if you cannot justify the reason for doing so

Which is irrelevant

If you want to dictate the lesson plans for your child do it in a private setting, in a public setting the community absolutely has a say.

Those were questions, not claims.
Maybe instead of worrying so much about gay characters in books you should be worrying about appropriate punctuation and what the marks mean.
? means someone is typically asking a question

It’s extremely complex, I know.

oh wow, you have four or five temporary victories out of how many thousands of school districts?

It is ironic that the two articles you listed that are not just right wing echo chambers basically say the issue is bigotry. Fascinating. I can see why you a freaking out… it’s lovely

 

NO there is proof homosexuality is genetic. I read your link, its pure speculation.

Gays have been desperately searching for the "gay gene" for decades, its their holy grail, if there is a genetic cause for homosexuality then it basically solves tehir legal and govt problem completely.

If they found a genetic cause it would be in every newspaper in the world, every talking head on tv would be screaming it 24/7. Why isn't it flooding the media? There is no genetic link.

 

Yet all evidence to the contrary. I guess its the best YOU can come up with

 

Children do not need to be exposed to every human quirk the minute they hit school. They will learn privately, slowly, and organically that there are exceptions to the norm in the human sphere. Just as they'll learn there are drug addicts, and blind people, and crazy people, and people with an extra finger, and people with fetishes, and people with tattoos on their ass.

Meantime, I'm opposed to IDEOLOGY in public schools. And when a school holds any specific position (for or against) something like LGBT, that's ideology. Neutrality is the only acceptable position .. which means not discussing it at all (for or against).

 

Very misleading chart.

I would be in the "should be valid" column not because I support homosexuality but because the govt should treat people equally. The govt should not be able to use its power to perform social engineering or dictate certain aspects of peoples personal lives.

I've held that view for decades, long before the gay rights issue came up.

 

Not going to respond to your Deflections or fake claims. Deleted to save data space

You tried to use a chart about same sex couples legal rights for marriage to support your idea that voices against LGBTQ being taught to 5 year olds are being drowned out across the country?
The desperation it took to post that is pretty reflective of your ideologies.

 

It’s strange he quickly people identifying has accelerated.

And you think that 7.1% is an actual natural and biological number or is it a social media abnormality? Sorry. Biology doesn’t work like that. Humans don’t EVOLVE that fast. Just like a group of girl friends in certain cities can’t naturally all identify as LGBT with out some sort of social pressure. To believe these new polls and percentages are “accurate” is beyond naive. It’s social/cultural, NOT natural. Why do we know this? Because if you study the LGBT percentage in cultures that aren’t westernized nothing has changed in centuries. And the rise in people identifying as LGBT is directly proportional to media forcing it down everyone’s throat with DE&I policy. When you artificially normalize something that isn’t normal you artificially change culture. It’s all by design.

The days of being born gay are long gone. Too many odd examples of this clustered LGBT behavior. Rogan has talked about it. My teen daughter during 2020 came out as Pansexual without showing any prior signs at all, after we found out she was communicating with a sick young girl. Didn’t take long after cutting it off with this person, for her to return to her senses. My daughter was GROOMED for a fact. So NO ONE can convince me it’s not happening and how dangerous and destructive it is.

What’s going on now is NOT natural in the slightest. It’s genetically impossible. Nature just doesn’t work like this.

 

People are not an ideology
Being against people is what the issue is here, you are saying we need to be neutral but by being neutral you believe that means leaving all gay characters out completely. How is that neutral?

 

People engage in ideologies, that's the problem. Whether your belief is in a deity, or that men can be women - it's all ideology.

Representing every ideology is the only way to include them and remain neutral. That means that if you're going to have books which are 'for' LGBT stuff, you must also have books which are 'against' it. Likewise religion and politics. All ideologies should be handled with 100% neutrality.

 

You are in the minority with your beliefs then. The vast majority of the individuals left from that chart from the last time the question was asked by Gallup put those individuals in the “homosexuality should be illegal” category — for some reason they stopped asking that question in 2003.

I don’t see how anyone that is striving for equality would be against gay characters. I understand books that contain sexual subjects (some of them absolutely go too far) but the desire to completely erase gay characters while claiming neutrality is absurd.

Do you feel we should be neutral on black people? What about white people? There are significant groups that hate each — what about what they are concerned with?

 

So we should have books that are against white people? Against Christians?

 

Race is an imutable. So is blindness and other accidents of birth.

Christianity and the practice of homosexuality are not imutable, and thus open to opinion and interpretation.

 

There is a ton of research showing that orientation is set by hormones in the mothers womb or other environmental factors and thus not changeable.

There are early age books that contain religious figures such as priests — should that imagery be banned nationwide?

 

There's a higher likelihood because.....why? You've given nothing to clarify that point. You're simply making things up to suit you.

Acceptance does not mean friendship. I accept the fact that you keep saying false things on this thread and your right to do so but I don't see a friendship in the future. The point being no one said anything about friendship.....except you, and I accecpt that.

 

What part of the ‘normality’ spectrum is it if a man has anal sex with a woman?

 

First, how about actually answering the question other than a strawman rant.
Second, who said homosexuality is normal. It's not but all the other nonsense you wrote about is nothing more than babble and not relevant. So, while it's not normal it is a natural occurance that happens to other species besides humans and is acceptable behavior. THAT is the point, to accept them in society......just like your sociopaths that don't.

 

That's right, they do.

Given you statement above, you tell me and why you can't accept them.

 

That's all fine and good and all but doesn't address the issue of the thread or you're OK with the fact that school libraries having books that discuss homosexuality. They aren't taught in class, just in the library. No one is being forced to read them.

 

Not yet.

 

If the school board will not hear the parents concerns, then the parents need to elect a new school board that will.