Now that China is the most advanced and dominant country, best place to learn Chinese?

It's all FIAT at the moment, but the dollar is [by far] the least dirty shirt in the laundry. Just look at the fundamentals...the U.S. has the best geography [two oceans and two friendly countries bordering], by far the best and most productive agriculture sector, [relatively] clean air and water, the highest tech, the best university system, the most stable form of government and legal system, the most wealth, the most productive and growing population, and a military that can do whatever it wants whenever it wants. China can't even take Taiwan back. I am not saying that eventually [a century or two?] that China won't be a superpower, but it is not going to last long in its present form [for all kinds of reasons]. Just having somebody like Xi alone is enough of a reason for a country to fall apart. He will make sure that China goes the way of the USSR.

And speaking of Russia, it's a mess, as well. The whole dictator thing never ends well. Both of these countries prospered [to the extent they did] because the West gave them the tech and the people to operate it. Without these people [and they are gone], China and Russia are in BIG trouble. You are going to see some amazing things come down in the next 12-24 months in both of these countries.

 

Jury is still out. China has a population problem brought on by their one child policy. They have a housing market collapse happening. They are destroying their economy with the no covid policy. Add in private tech companies ditching China since he decided to give himself a third term and we will see where this goes 10 years from now.

 

The US dollar and the US are up shitcreek, a planned demise by the Democrats. I won't be putting my money on China and Russia going down, it will be the US and EU that are spiralling out of control.

 

Fake news. I implied no such thing. Your inference is faulty.

I made it repeatedly and perfectly clear that any military action would be justified only to contain expansionist military aggression by China. Standing by for your apology and retraction.

China is a Slaver Nation. This is known.

Fake News. I have made no such mistake.

Fake News.

https://www.state.gov › forced-labor-in-chinas-xinjiang-region
Forced Labor in China's Xinjiang Region - U.S. Department of State

'Forced labor is a central tactic used for this repression. In Xinjiang, the government is the trafficker. Authorities use threats of physical violence, forcible drug intake, physical and sexual abuse, and torture to force detainees to work in adjacent or off-site factories or worksites producing garments, footwear, carpets, yarn, food products ...'

They beat them, they cage them, they rape them. And while they have the men caged in slave labor camps they assign government agents to their homes that share beds with the wives of the incarcerated.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-7647865 › Muslim-wives-forced-sleep-bed-Han-men-husbands-detained.html
Muslim wives in China 'are forced to sleep in the same bed as Han men'
'Married Chinese Muslim women are regularly forced to share the same bed as male officials sent by government to monitor them when their husbands are being indoctrinated in internment camps'

• China is not advanced, they are barbaric.
• China is not a good trade partner, they treat the world's oceans and air and environment like it's their own personal toilet. They are a dirty filthy nation.
• They are not dominant. If those bastards launch a war of aggression against their Free and Peaceful Neighbors, they will not enjoy the response of the combined fury of the Free World.

We need to keep moving our supply lines out of China.
We need sliding tariffs against gross polluters that are reduced as environmental improvements are verified.
No slave produced goods should be available on US markets.

If you have a problem with any of that, your problem is you.

 

The EU was doomed from the start, but that's another story. I agree that eventually the USD is going to go the way of all FIAT currencies, but it's going to stay on top for a while.

The coming economic dislocation is going to affect the US the least because of all the reasons we have discussed. Exactly what is going to happen is difficult to predict but when you have all the advantages, it's a pretty safe bet that you're coming out of it a lot better than the rest.

What makes you believe that the US is not only going to stay on top, but pad its lead in every way? Are you planning on leaving? And where would you go?

 

When you look at what the US dollar is backed by, debt and war. Every country the US has had "interventions" with after WWII has had a regime change, to put in place their own puppet who will bow to its wishes, in return, the US has raped those countries of its resources (the war part). Because of the debt, it has accrued it needs the latter.
As for the petrodollar which is the US currency mainstay as Nixon removed the gold standard in '71, and many nations were convinced to ditch the gold standard also from the Bretton Wood System. The US hoodwinked Saudi Arabia. The US dollar is backed by nothing, for oil.
Ever since then, the US dollar has slowly declined in strength. The Saudis have finally woken up to this sh!t deal and are in talks with China and word is that Iran is on the march for Saudi Arabia. If this all comes to fruition, the US dollar will become pretty much worthless, the Chinese Yuan will be the top world reserve currency.

Providing that the nutters running your rock show follow along as BRICS, it may alter the course of the US dollar's pending doom.

Btw, I'm an Aussie.

 

Sorry to assume. Nice country.

I get what has happened to the USD, but again, you have to look at what the fundamentals are. If everybody is using funny money, then it will go away when it's time. There is going to be some kind of massive default that will create a new monetary system at some point. Money is just money. What is more important to consider is what generates wealth.

In terms of what generates wealth, the US dominates every category...food, energy, higher education, natural resources, technology and innovation, military, government, legal system, and perhaps the most important one...the belief that the US is still the best hope for future freedom and prosperity.

And after all, isn't part of my taxes going to protect your rear-end down under? I do get all the bs this country has pulled off over the years but there's no getting away from the fact that we are a seriously flawed species. OTOH, the US has done a great deal of good, as well.

 

This is definitely what I don't see atm. The Dems have destroyed your country, what you describe was what it once was that is not the current case. If you pay attention as you stated previously, you be aware of how the Dems are diluting and slowly eroding away at your constitution. Farmland is being bought by certain entities, both Gates and the Chinese. Oil production and diesl fuel is being limited. Yep, prosperity everywhere. Especially in the job sector. Just numbers to make the masses feel fuzzy and warm, when in fact those jobs that have been taken up are by people who already have one or more jobs to make ends meet. it surely doesn't paint a cheery picture for the US.

 

They were property yes there was a universal concept

You are ignorant of history.

 

That is not where it came from.

Africans were enslaving and selling ogther africans long before the spanish were involved

 

Slaver States aren't Great States.

 

??? Democratic slavery? Africans enslaved Africans not within their tribe. Tribalism as opposed to racism. Not sure I see the advantage of tribalism that you do.

 

Don't take it seriously, I was talking with Mr. Esau who see White America as the worst crime in the world. With some people I don't like to argue, I like to agree with them.
To make Mr. Esau happy I found positive features in African slavery - in Africa everyone could became a slave without regard to the color of the skin, religion or political views, Americans restricted slavery to Black people only, so it makes African slavery vary democratic.

 

""Americans restricted slavery to Black people only, so it makes African slavery vary democratic""
Not true at all.

 

That one child policy is a problem, but not for education. The common saying of Guang gun and Sheng Nu, Leftover men and leftover women respectively. It is also making it hard for the children to take care of their parents in their old age. In China, family is extremely important, even to the point of its patriarchial/matriarchial culture, depending on who is the oldest living relative of the family. Right now, there is more women than men, and it is against the law in China to have an ultrasound to determine the sex of the child before birth, given that a male child is preferred over a female child.

 

I agree, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and other states in the South that seceded from the union and have now rejoined are not great states, except maybe Texas though.

 

The one child policey is a problem because their working class is aging out creating a large gap in the population.


They are going to need to suppliment their population with some immigration which is going to be interesting considering right now it's not an accident that their populace is 91% han chinese.

To compare you can see how the United States graph is fairly consistent. Not because we are a successful society...we are not. But because we offset our shortcoming with immigration.

 

The Topic is China. Get back to me when you can stay on topic.

 

The one china policy...this no covid policy...when you go full authoritarian, you had better hope that the one guy in charge doesn't have any bad ideas because if they do there is no pivoting. Long term? Authoritarian is likely to eventually lead to too much meddling and no choice to pivot which means inevitably you will run head on into some idiot who gets to be perrenially in charge.

 

I quoted you directly, try again.

Not really. The "slavery" you are referring to is in the prison system much like our own BTW.

Again, I took directly what you quoted, nothing more, nothing less

You are referring here to the Chinese Prison system, much like the prison system in Russia where there is forced labor, then yes and they generally do not sell those items abroad. It is the Chinese way of "rehabilitation" to get back into society. We even have slavery here in the United States in our prisons with labor being paid much less than the conveying.

But to give a background of what happened. In 2014, the East Turkistan Independence Movement which attacked a train station in Kunming and killed several people. Five of the attackers were killed, and another 4 were captured with nearly all receiving the death penalty in China. Since then, the province as waged a "people's war" against the forces of seperatism, terrorism, and extremism. Sound familiar here? As a result, those that sympathized with the East Turkistan Independence Movement, a terrorist group by our own State Department AND China, they Chinese government decided to "reeducate" the populous and that is what you are posting about the "forced labor camps."

As for the women being "forced to sleep with Han men, I know there are rumors and allegations, but it is not something that is unheard in even our own European history, right? Shall we talk about Edward Longshanks of England and how he forced the Scottish women to sleep with their English lords under the primae noctis doctrine that was very common in the "medieval days" This is not suprising. But for me, until there is actual evidence and not just allegations, then it is the decision of that country and that country's culture, no one else.

 

China has adopted a "zero tolerance" of no covid deaths. They got the idea from the Trump administration of the "zero tolerance" policy on illegal immigration that also used extremely drastic measures, including denying certain due process among the illegals.

 

Dude. You are talking about some barbaric law from the 1200's vs now. Lol.

 

Nice pivot but we are not talking about Trump, we are talking about an authoritarian who came up with a dip **** policy and there is no way to pivot out from under it. No threatening to vote him out on the next cycle. Nothing. They are ****ed. Better hope he doesn't come up with some other stupid idea...like...invading a nieghboring soverieng nation like that other midget hitler authoritarian...

Trump got voted out. This fat **** just gave himself a third term just cause.

 

And that should be different how? Even in the past, the time and culture was of that time period just as today, in a foreign country, with a different set of values, should not be required to be judged by our standards. Right?

 

It should be different because we as a species have ...evolved? Lol. Or are you trying to tell us how great China is because they are comparable to that of England in the 1200's?

Pretty sure we burned whitches back then...should I expect China to burn whitches?