Black Reparations.

the Portuguese captured other Portuguese and sold them to Americans. It was a Portuguese civil war being played out on African soil. Nothing at all to do with Africans. Africans were just the middlemen that facilitated the transaction implemented by the Spanish crown. This is what Portuguese archives tell us, your Wikipedia narrative is so yesterday

 

You're flat wrong about this is the best time in history to "do better."

 

So what? There are planes to the UK every single day, and you could be on one. Our ancestors fought and many died to no longer be a part of Britian 250 years ago, no reason for us to start emulating their stupidity. As far as the German's paying restitution, they were dealing with living victims. Apples and oranges.

 

I believe dead people are responsible. Now, if you want to go dig them up, throw their bones (because that would be all that's left unless they were embalmed) into a jail cell, and bill them for these "restitutions", then I'm just fine with that. Then, you can take all the money you got out of their coffins (surely some of them went down with some gold, or other jewelry at least!), then you can distribute that money to all living victims. Let me know how you plan to pull that off.

 

as do I, but you and I were not there, had nothing to do with it, we are just as responsible as anyone else alive today (regardless of race), which is not at all

a white guy walking down the street today is just as responsible for slavery as a black guy walking down the street.... that is the point

it seems like we agree on this

 

What has that got to do with us British taxpayers who have been paying money to the descendants of slavers for the last 150 years?

 

Their great grandchildren are living in 20 bed mansions on vast estates paid for by taxpayers. I demand a refund because idont condone slavers or their beneficiaries

 

so, demand in one hand and…

 

But we're not talking about great-grandchildren. We're talking more about great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren. And, while I suppose it's possible if you try hard enough, you might find an exception or two, generally speaking that wealth has long since been spent or diluted via the exponential growth of descendants those folks have today. Even if none of it was ever spent it would come out to like $2.47/person.

 

No he should not.

 

Wrong

They were prisoners.

You are contradictory and all over the map

Making **** up as you go

 

We need to round up all the slavers descendants

 

Agreed..... time for Khamala Harris (a direct descendant of a slaver) to be sent to prison. A ton of black people are going to prison, many of them are the result of plantation owners raping black slaves. Unfortunately that makes them the descendants of slavers. Slaver DNA is in their blood. As you say, slaver descendants need to be rounded up. In an era of DNA, we can determine which black people are the descendants of slavers. There can be no doubt whatsoever that there will be millions more black people that are the descendants of slavers than white people. For example, I am white and my family has been America since the 1600s. We have traced all lines back to arrival in America, NONE of them were slavers..... all were farmers or craftsmen/inventers in the North (many never saw a black person in their entire life). I therefor owe $0 for reparations and as my ancestors fought for the Union in the Civil War, I am owed reparations for my ancestors who died freeing the slaves.

In any event, this is a profoundly silly argument. In the current system, welfare gibs for minorities are primarily generated by white wage slaves. If you imprison the white wage wage slaves, where is the money for welfare gibs supposed to come from? The only thing that could possibly happen by such an action is mass starvation of the minorities who currently rely on gibs to survive.

 

I mean the ones that live in mansions with hundreds of acres of land and are white

 

Who received payments?
They searched for the identities of the slave owners and tried to trace the payments back to specific individuals.

Sometimes they couldn’t see the exact payment but they could see someone coming into unexplained funds and making large purchases or investments.

While the payments were made to specific owners, it was interesting to look at where these families lived.

British society was influenced by slave ownership in many unexpected ways.

Slavery was a larger part of the history of the UK than we realize today.

Ending slavery and making large payments to the owners had an immediate impact on the physical, cultural, artistic, and political spheres of British society.

It was revealing to see where they invested the money they received

 

The family of the current Prime Minister of Britain, David Cameron, benefited from the enslavement of African people. According to Dr. Nick Draper of University College London, as many as one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons inherited part or all of their fortunes from the slave economy. As a result, there are now wealthy families all around the U.K. still indirectly enjoying the proceeds of slavery they have inherited. In addition to benefiting from slavery while it was legal in the British Empire, Cameron’s ancestors were given £4,101, equal to more than £3 million today ($4.7 million dollars), for the 202 black people they enslaved on the Grange Sugar Estate in Jamaica.

 

George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush

According to researchers, a notoriously vicious slave trader, who brought captive slaves from West Africa to colonial America, is the same man whose descendants produced two U.S. presidents: George W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush.

Twelve American presidents owned slaves, eight while serving in office, and at least 25 presidents count slave owners among their ancestors. But Thomas Walker a direct ancestor of George W. and George H.W. Bush was part of a much more appalling group: Thomas Walker was a notorious slave trader active in the late 18th century along the coast of West Africa. Walker, George H.W. Bush’s great-great-great grandfather, was the captain of, master of, or investor in at least 11 slaving voyages to West Africa between 1784 and 1792.”

 

I'm going to set up a fund. My organization will be call RADL, Real ADL.

I'll be expecting donations from the ppl mentioned above, failure to comply will result in an army of social media users spreading false stories about you and your families.

End sarcasm

 

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Would you be so kind as to enlighten those of us who aren't as brilliant as you are just who those people are? I cannot deny that there might be a very small handful of people who match that description, but the number of people who can trace their 2022 wealth directly to ill-gotten gains directly to wealth created by slaves can probably be counted using fingers and toes without even needing to use your feet. For the rest of us normal Joe Schmoes whose wealth is self-made (or even someone like Paris Hilton, who was born with a platinum spoon in her mouth, but there were no Hilton Hotels until after WWI), leave us out of your little scheme to not just further divide an already very divided country, and is, as a practical matter, simply not going to happen.

You bring up the UK so frequently that I've begun to wonder if you live there. If so, I would suggest you go after the royal family for reparations to the whole f-ing country and leave American matters to Americans.

Christ, even bringing up this subject only serves to piss people off.

 

See above

 

See also:

Ancestors of secularist campaigner Richard Dawkins made their fortune from the slave trade, it has been revealed.

The outspoken atheist, who once branded the Catholic Church 'evil', is the direct descendent of Henry Dawkins who owned 1,013 slaves in Jamaica until he died in 1744.

"Campaigner Richard Dawkins faces awkward truth that his money came from slave trade" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ces-awkward-truth-money-came-slave-trade.html

 

Exactly! All slave descendants should receive compensations from slave owners descendants, slave traders descendants, and slave catcher descendants and slave seller descendants, does not matter of their skin color.

Here some of them:
Ḥamad ibn Muḥammad ibn Jumʿah ibn Rajab ibn Muḥammad ibn Saʿīd al Murjabī
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tippu_Tip

Nzinga of Ndongo and Matamba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nzinga_of_Ndongo_and_Matamba

Nwaubani
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/my-great-grandfather-the-nigerian-slave-trader

African slave traders
https://www.discoveringbristol.org....planters/slave-traders/african-slave-traders/

Kingdom of Dahomey got lucky - they sold only part their slaves, the part other part they sacrificed, so no compensation for descendants:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_Customs_of_Dahomey

African chiefs
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade

And others:
https://theworld.org/stories/2019-0...-forgot-and-remembered-their-role-slave-trade

 

Let's not forget the thousands of slaves owned by white jewISH Europeans in Suriname.