The mind-blowing evil of slicing off young girls’ breasts.

Yep! Less than 2,000 out of 300 million Americans

 

And you should not feel shame - ever! Just because the wound is not visible does not mean it does not exist!

 

feel the same way about elective circumcisions... only at that age, the child is not the one making the choice

 

Speaking of facts, please cite the bolded claims, and I'll try to assess if it's misleading or not. Also not looking so much for anecdotes as data. You can always find one person where things didn't work out so well. The question isn't if it always goes right, but the balance of risk and benefit.

 

Oh! So consent to cosmetic surgery means they are also capable of consent to sex?
okay - so here is a real hairy one.

The child with a severe intellectual disability. Female - screams and becomes hysterical when she has a period - does not have the capacity to understand what is happening - parents have her on hormone therapy to suppress the periods and are considering a hysterectomy.

Severe intellectual disability - male. Constantly masturbates - should he be given hormone therapy at least to suppress this behaviour?

 

No, it isn't. It's basically validating delusions, while ignoring the cause of the delusions. Treating only the symptoms (yet not really treating, because the symptoms are actually encouraged), and letting the disease run rampant.

Treatment of adjustment and personality disorders have been around a long time, and they often work very well. To suggest that this new fad for ignoring the cause of the disease, is somehow an improvement, is about as regressive as it gets in terms of medical science. It's almost a return to witch-doctoring.

 

Are you suggesting that 'trans' kids are profoundly disabled?

 

Dysphoria is the condition. The treatment works for the most part. The people who have an issue with it are the ones who are suffering from the preferred treatment. I’m sorry their treatment gives you the willies, but your reaction to their treatment is none of their business.

 

The whole point of this is to try and stop them from being able to back out of it. So if a young girl goes through a tomboy phase and then grows out of it even if she identified as trans because that's what it means now it's used as ammunition to suggest that being trans for a lot of people is a phase.

And this commits the most heinous crime of all. Suggesting that the left is wrong. After all they believe the science you know.

 

But it isn't a physical condition. At least not in the absence of a brain injury or birth defect.

So on the contrary, if we're to have any hope of 'curing' mental illnesses, we must treat them for what they actually are .. mental illness. If we refuse to look at the cause, and address that - we can only ever mask or temper. That's not good enough. We need to do better.

 

Are you okay with a child eating a breast enlargement? What about a tattoo or smoking cigarettes

 

No it does not work. It absolutely doesn't. And it's doing immense harm in the process.

 

You are denying the physical presence of a brain? The brain controls the entire body, including blood pressure. That doesn’t make high blood pressure a mental disorder.

 

First, your aggregation is a year old and the studies are even older, further, the basic structure and the ethical problems with a double blind mean that the placebo effect is not being filtered from these studies of the short term effects.

Gender-Affirming Treatment of Gender Dysphoria in Youth: A Perfect Storm Environment for the Placebo Effect—The Implications for Research and Clinical Practice

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02472-8#citeas

'The previous “common practice” of providing psychosocial care only to those under 18 or 21 years (Smith et al., 2001) has largely been replaced by the gender affirmative treatment approach (GAT), which for adolescents includes hormonal and surgical interventions (Coleman et al., 2022). However, as a recent review concluded, evidence on the appropriate management of youth with gender incongruence and dysphoria is inconclusive and has major knowledge gaps (Cass, 2022).'

Indeed.

'The current treatment approach for GD (Gender Dysphoria) youth presents a perfect storm environment for the placebo effect.'

'GAT (Gender Affirming Treatment) can achieve some of the desired masculine or feminine appearance outcomes, but the main arguments used to support the use of these treatments in GD youth are that they improve short- and long-term mental health and quality-of-life outcomes. However, this claim is only underpinned by low-quality (mostly short-term, uncontrolled, observational) studies, which provide very low certainty evidence, complemented by expert opinion (Clayton, 2022a; Hembree et al., 2017; NICE, 2020ab; Rosenthal, 2021). No randomized controlled trials (RCTs), including none using the previous treatment approach as a comparative, have been undertaken. This low-quality evidence for the efficacy of GAT is of particular concern given the potential risks associated with GAT.'

Exactly

Rendering children infertile

'Impaired fertility is a risk of cross-sex hormones, and the extent of reversibility of this is unclear (Cheng et al., 2019; Hembree et al., 2017). If puberty blockers are commenced in early puberty and followed by cross-sex hormones, there are no proven methods of fertility preservation (Bangalore Krishna et al., 2019). Surgeries, such as gonadectomies and most genital surgeries, will result in permanent sterility. These impaired fertility and sterility outcomes are important because, firstly, as Cheng et al. (2019) reported, the widespread assumption that many transgender people do not want to have biological children is not supported by several recent studies. Secondly, children as young as ten, who do not have capacity for informed consent, are starting a treatment course that will likely render them infertile or sterile and this raises complex bioethical issues (Baron & Dierckxsens, 2021).'

You think?

 

Did you read my post. I clearly specified "in the absence of brain injury" etc. In other words, when there is no physiological damage to the organ.

Our thoughts are not physiological. They are if anything, electrical - but even that isn't correct. And yes, our thoughts CAN influence the body. Blood pressure can be impacted by our thoughts ... just as heart rate can be slowed or increased. This effect can be observed, measured, and repeated. What is happening is that our thoughts impact neurochemistry, which in turn impacts autonomic systems (and other body systems, sometimes). IOW neurochemical 'difference' is almost certainly a result of our thoughts, not the other way around.

 

So now you just go into denial instead of answer the question?

 

For the righties it's OK to force a 12 year old ( or any woman) to damage her body by FORCING her to gestate....they just hate the thought that women can decide things for themselves

 

The chemical imbalance in my brain is physical, not mental.

 

How could you possibly know something like that? You can't. Science is nowhere near knowing it, in fact. All we know right now, is that there is a chemical difference. We have no way of demonstrating HOW that difference arose. However we do know that stress and other similar external imposts, cause chemical changes in the brain. Given that's settled science, it's about 99.9% likely that external environment in childhood is the cause of these chemical changes (ie differences). By that I mean the psycho/emotional environment.

 

Lol. Thanks doctor. Since my father, grandfather and niece, all have the same imbalance, and were all raised in different environments, with different people, I’m going to call your diagnosis bunk.

 

You're welcome

The genetics idea is what's bunk. There is zero evidence of it, and there may never be any. And there's no possible way you can measure a person's psycho/emotional environment well enough to declare it innocent. The very idea that you can, is preposterous. Besides, unless all your relatives were adopted, there IS a link. The potential for learned problems is far greater than you assume .. if you're assuming it requires a lifetime of consistent influence. Kids can pick up poor cues very very easily, especially when there isn't a super strong 'canceller' in the background.

 

Lol. I will stick with family history and doctor expertise. I’ll let my doctor in on your knowledge though. Lol. Or not.

 

They can take all the hormones they want, they’ll never have a 3-piece
This gender swap thing doesn’t really work out too well for biological females.
I can’t believe people in here support this garbage.
Consider me disgusted!

 

What I want to know is how a reduction mastectomy ended up being “cutting the breasts off”

 

And a transgender male will never have a working uterus

So?