"They’re trying to George Floyd me" before dead

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by notme, Jan 13, 2023.

  1. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yea, males vs female crime stats. Educated vs uneducated, etc.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2023
  2. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,146
    Likes Received:
    4,610
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Pointing out that blacks commit about 57% of the murders in 2020 while they make up 13% of the population isnt racist and is instead pointing out that its 57% of the problem, not all.
     
    USVet likes this.
  3. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,146
    Likes Received:
    4,610
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are probably 99% male. Was there a relevant point?
     
  4. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    9,869
    Likes Received:
    3,114
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No. One needs a study to see if black people are more likely to be killed while controlling for such behavior. To determine if police violence is actually racist or not, or if it's actually just based upon the behavior of the suspect.
     
    USVet likes this.
  5. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    if you make up 50% of society, say white people, then 50% of murders is on par. If you make up 13% of society and you’re in for 54% of all murders, your numbers are representing you poorly.

    we knew that, it’s in the FBI stats.
     
    USVet likes this.
  6. USVet

    USVet Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    2,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just another angry leftist who wants to ignore facts and data because it doesn't tell him what he wants to hear.
     
  7. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If its and butts were candy and nuts, we would all have a very merry Christmas with such intellectually lazy thinking.
    By your very words you have demonstrated you still know very little, interpreting data being a start.

    The data tells the story of law enforcement injustices, the only ones ignoring that are the ones benefiting from said injustice.

    Thanx to the blm protests, now other cultures are starting to speak up about cop abuse. Conservatives, and Trump supporters included.

    If they wanna be heard, they should protest as well. Not pretend accepted incidents should be accepted.
     
  8. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,146
    Likes Received:
    4,610
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nobody has been ignoring the data and have repeatedly addressed it. YOU use faulty CRT analysis concluding that any racial disparity that disfavors blacks is by definition the result of racism. Silly fool logic.
     
  9. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Uh, 13% of the population can reasonably translate to 13% of the murders in the country.
    Maybe you’re better at data than me, can you explain where my math is wrong?
     
  10. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The part where you exclude gender, education, motive, etc to form an opinion that race plays a larger part then the sum of why each person committed said crime on an individual basis.

    Cherry picking data to fit a false narritive is fallacious logic.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2023
  11. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Whats CRT have anything to do with people cherry picking data to fit some false narritive that past behavior of other individuals is indicative of another person's future results, thus warranting a dangerous stereotype.
    Gamblers fallacy comes to mind.

    Why are Trump supporters so scared of crt?
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2023
  12. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
     
  13. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I just did, you exclude relevant data, like gender, education, and means to substitute it for irrelevant data like only race to fit a false narritive.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  14. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How are those things relative? It’s sound more like a cheap excuse to prevent holding those committing the murders accountable. The problem for the 13% is toxic black culture. That’s why they’re 5x more likely to murder each other.
    But I guess it’s easier to make excuses instead of addressing the actual problem, and you get to feel like a social justice trendsetter.
     
  15. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well well well. I prove something with your source and you honestly think I'm going to care when you got a negative far right white wing opinion about it? lol
    As if. My source stands of course until you go debunk it with an other source.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  16. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I asked you to go source these claims, and instead of proving your point you're just repeating your nonsense.
    And it is nonsense. You clearly got no clue what you're talking about.
    Here, have a source:

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-taser-911/
    Reuters finds more than 150 autopsy reports citing Tasers as a cause or contributor to deaths across America. Behind the fatalities is a sobering reality: Many who die are among society’s vulnerable – unarmed, in psychological distress and seeking help.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  17. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    bahahahhaha speaking of clueless that’s a news article not a science review on the topic.

    you probably should have read it first, but you do you…

    “It’s impossible to know precisely what role the Taser played in many of the deaths documented by Reuters. A review of more than 400 of the fatal encounters – those in which court documents provide a relatively detailed account of what happened – indicates Tasers were the only form of force allegedly used by police in about one in four of the cases. The rest involved both Tasers and other forms of force.”

    I guess don’t call the cops if your psychotic family member goes out of control, why make the police deal with your problem? Handle it. The cops aren’t your mom.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  18. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those are proven facts used in court. See that I care what a far right white wing nationalists lives in an alternative reality.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  19. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes.

    Toxic culture? Why, is their culture any more toxic then male culture, which like the other poster presented is most likely 99% of the offenders.

    And I went over the crime stats your numbers are way off, white actually top the charts by a wide margin. For some reason you exclude non Hispanic from your analysis, and fail to divide black into the other category (lacking DNA tests I'm more then positive most are mixed), once again to paint a false narritive that a certain demographic deserves to be overpoliced, when it's all males that deserve the same treatment if their education and means arnt known.

    Black and other are way more then 13%. White and non Hispanic are the same.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  20. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Breaking the law killing nobody is one thing. Breaking the constitution and getting somebody killed because of that is on a whole different level. Maybe you can look passed the skin color in order to admit that one wrong is far more wrong than the other, and in no way does make it right.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  21. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No way? I just sourced how it is! You insist that your racist bias opinion is true. Institutionalized racism much? lol

    There is nothing new about this. Human Rights Watch dragged age old documents saying the exact same thing.
    https://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-05.htm
    data for 1991, 1992, and 1993: 3.1 percent of non-Hispanic blacks and 2.4 percent of non-Hispanic whites over the age of 12 had used cocaine in the past year.
    in 1998 there were 4,934,000 whites who used marijuana on 51 or more days in the past year, compared to 1,102,000 blacks, and 321,000 whites who had used cocaine on 51 or more days in the past year compared to 171,999 blacks


    By 1988, however, with national anti-drug efforts in full force, blacks were arrested on drug charges at five times the rate of whites.


    So yeah. The predominantly white police force has a racist issue.
    Get over it.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  22. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

    There you go.

    hmm, I guess you just arrived in the US. Part of toxic black culture is that 70%+ black families are single parent and no father figure, something that’s preventing proper raising of kids. Oh and having kids they cannot feed, not valuing education and having idiot sports people and rappers who talk about murder and crime and f the police for heroes. Wait, add a median IQ of around 87, poor impulse control…

    there’s no such thing as “over policed” that’s just a deflection because people got caught committing crime. Blaming the police for catching criminals is hilarious and expected.
     
  23. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,723
    Likes Received:
    6,426
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I know you wouldn’t actually have anything to post if it were race baiting, but nothing you linked shows cops are racist. You just made that up since it’s feels good, I guess, to root for the criminals all the time.
    What’s up with the criminals fetish, how do people end up with that?
     
  24. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hey lookit that white 69% of total crime, black 27% a bit more reasonable when ur honest.
    They canceled live PD because white people felt it put them in a bad light. There is no reason a cop needs to serve as executioner..heck there are live TV shows all about people resisting arrest without getting killed.

    This cop didn't get away Scott free without even an investigation like he would have before the blm movements.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023
  25. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2014
    Messages:
    8,685
    Likes Received:
    2,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hmm, and this seems to go against ur narritive.
    Kids were fighting in school. Dads began patrolling campus, and the violence stopped.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/10/28/dads-duty-patrol-school-fights/
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2023

Share This Page