China has built the world’s largest navy.

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/05/china/china-world-biggest-navy-intl-hnk-ml-dst/index.html

    The United States is losing world leadership both in the economy and in politics, and even in the naval forces.
    By the way, China is calling on the United States to explain its actions regarding the theft of oil from Syria, which exacerbate the energy and humanitarian crisis in the country. This was announced on January 17 at a briefing by Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin.
    In other words, China is confident that it can demand a response from the US.
    And why not? China has a real economy, which, after the start of a direct confrontation (including military) with the United States, is much more important than the economy of dog groomers, Facebook and waiters.
    Especially considering the fact of close economic contacts with Russia, a country rich in natural resources and a powerful military nuclear structure.
    And what amazes me the most is that the United States itself has pushed Russia and China to close cooperation.
    First they expanded NATO to the detriment of Russia, and today they are supplying weapons designed to kill Russians to Ukraine.
    Also, the crazy old woman makes a demonstrative trip to Taiwan, and the brainless Biden threatens China.
    And if China, Russia and a number of other countries create a military bloc, then the NATO bloc will look like a parody compared to the Russian-Chinese bloc.
    And then there's Biden and other mindless and rabid - US government ..... In general, the world has already changed.
    By the way, in a few years, when the West finally collapses, you will be able to watch how political prostitute-countries will run away from the US and the EU towards Russia and China.
    Therefore, I would like to draw your attention to Georgia.
    This country is a classic prostitute-country. It's not good or bad, it's her means of survival. Georgia has always betrayed its master. And rushed about mainly between Turkey, Iran and Russia. And she always betrayed the one she served at the moment when her master was weakening.
    That is, Georgia can be considered as a weather vane.
    And today, Georgia refuses to help Ukraine, does not make harsh statements towards Russia, and tries to please the Russians. Obviously, at the level of instinct, Georgians understand that power is leaving the West.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    A recommendation; stick to Russian propaganda. Chinese propaganda is not your forte. Incidentally there is Georgian Legion fighting in the Donbas.
     
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    So what? The vast majority of their ships are tiny, out of date, and can't go more than 300 miles in combat conditions. Having lots of tiny boats does not a capable fleet make.
     
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    China is closer to collapsing than being anywhere near being able to take on the US Navy.
     
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    Neither is Russian propaganda. :D
     
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    China has built the world’s largest navy.

    If you want a ship for ship comparison of the two navies you can read some numbers from the link. It appears the majority of the fleet is coastal patrol boats. I think perhaps the Russian navy can give the Chinese a run for the money. The U.S. Navy would put the Chinese navy under water in short order. https://thediplomat.com/2021/04/yes...-navy-that-matters-less-than-you-might-think/
     
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    Goody! More targets for NATO!
     
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    Propaganda fail.
     
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    The Chinese Belt and Road crap has been a total failure. I don't see where them pretending to have a second or third world capable navy gives them any credibility.
     
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    Yeah. Not worried. A single carrier group would have their entire fleet in Davy Jones' Locker inside of a week.

    BTW, is the Ukranian 'special military operation' still all over but the cleanup, as you posted like 9 months ago?
     
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    @Destroyer of illusions

    You already prepared to beat off attack of Ukrainian battle mosquitos, about whom your moron Nebenzja talked in UN? Spring is coming, Ukrainian battle mosquitos are on your way.
     
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    Assuming a conventional conflict I would back China. Its ships are newer, better and capable of leaving port and its crews are well trained & motivated. Russia has more experience, but that only helps if your equipment works and your crews are competent. China also has several working aircraft carriers that can actually launch functioning aircraft. Russia recently lost a fleet flagship to nation without a functional navy.

    China is in the middle of the largest naval building program since WW2. They aren't yet a threat to the US, but Russia would not want to cross them.
     
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    So what? The Americans, the British, the Poles are also fighting in the Donbas ... But officially the USA, Britain, Poland do not recognize their participation in the war.
    For example, as the American authorities say, the Saudis have blown up 9-11. Does this, according to your logic, mean that Saudi Arabia attacked the United States?

    And you are an amazing person, any information that you do not like, you call someone's propaganda. Could it be better to look at events from all angles?
     
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    I wonder how Latvian, the supposedly, "logic" connects the Chinese fleet and Ukrainian mosquitoes? I wonder what is going on in the head of a Latvian at this moment.
     
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    Quantity and quality is not the same, just look on Russian and Ukraine army.
     
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    Ukraine has no army. Just like there is no economy.
    Russians are fighting against NATO. All weapons, finances, ammunition, instructors, intelligence, military specialists, media cover .... etc. - all these are NATO countries.
    And considering the fact that there are much fewer Russians in the combat zone (until recently there were 200 thousand Russians against 700 thousand Ukrainians (not counting the national battalions and foreign mercenaries)), I completely agree that it is not quantity that matters, but quality.
    By the way, the same applies to the economy. Compare the GDP of all NATO countries and Russia's GDP.
     
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    Just while you are posting some bullshit here, Ukrainian battle mosquitos making preparations to kill you. Be aware and better stay at home. And put foil cap on, because CIA and MI6 will soon try boil your brain using g5 network. I bet Nebrnzja or Lavrov also soon will announce this plan of Russia enemies.
     
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    Who is your doctor?
     
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    My doctor is fighting all NATO block now, together with you. Ask him help, if someting.
     
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    Most importantly, don't be nervous. Everything is quiet. Everything will be fine. Being nervous is bad for you. Take a deep breath and drink some water.
     
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    Definitely, Ukrainian battle mosquitoes will go after Nebenzja, Lavrov and You, I'm not Russian, they attack only Russians, checking passports and they go for the kill.
     
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    You can do better than that here too. The British and Poles are not included in your list of countries not involved in the war but you included Georgia incorrectly. The UK and Poland don't have soldiers in Donbas but the Georgians do. Secondly, you failed to include Iran, China and North Korea which are helping the Russians. If you tailor your facts or mis-state them people will call it out.
     
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    It must those ghost soldiers who are killing Russian soldiers or maybe the Georgian Legion. Ukraine appears to have an excellent military with excellent leadership. I just follow the facts. I have no stake in the war like you do. There is a group of those soldiers in the U.S. presently training to use the Patriot missile system. So they appear to be well trained as well.

    Be glad you aren't actually fighting NATO directly. Look what NATO is doing to the Russian military from the sidelines.
     
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    Claiming Ukraine has no army is as delusional as it gets. Good one, purveyor. Spasibo za smekh :)
     
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    Nay on that one mate ... What the war in Ukraine has shown us is that any carrier that gets near Russia - or any other nation with modern anti ship missiles - will finds its way to the bottom.

    Like your friend above .. you are missing the point of these war games in Ukraine .. Russia is fighting NATO directly for the most part .. NATO is just restricting the type and use of the weapons that it is fighting with.

    The war games have gone exceedingly well .. all kinds of technology on display from a number of nations. Technology has advanced a whole lot .. but we have not seen any of it because there have been no wars where this technology has been tested since the Iraq war and that was only the US testing its stuff (which is now way old) against an inferior adversary .. we havn't had a sniff of the technology of anyone else .. .. or any of our modern stuff.

    The face of war has changed ... but we did not have any idea to what extent until now... Reading Raytheon or Spunik propaganda doesn't count.
     

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