Gun Control needs to be instituted

Communists did not want that.

"'The eradication of state power' which as a 'parasitic excrescence'; it's 'amputation'; it's 'destruction'; 'state power is now becoming outmoded'; these are the expressions used by Marx about the state when appraising and analyzing the experience of the commune." All this was written a little less than half a century ago; and now it is like having to carry out excavations in order to bring a knowledge of undistorted Marxism to the broad masses." THE STATE AND REVOLUTION, VI Lenin, Penguin, 1992 p. 49.

Communists are lost souls.

 

More unsupported opinion that you don't even believe. By now you know very well that all crime including gun crime has continued to surge ever since the 96 gun ban.

The DP could never have sustained itself without the exploitation black Americans. That is just another Inconvenient Truth.

“The worst enemy that the Negro have [sic] is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the Dixiecrat white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.[1]”
Deus Ex Machina, Malcolm X on White Guilt and the Exploitation of Black Lives, Black Theology, Ethics, By Bobby Grow, JUNE 2, 2020.
https://deusxma.wordpress.com/2020/...te-guilt-and-the-exploitation-of-black-lives/

Try substantive rebuttal it works better.

 

when it comes to guns, i am 67 and never used them at all, just my personal choice, and am unlikely to change, i do recognize the world has many different kinds of people who MUST learn to get along, the older i get the less political i get...forming a third party is a tall order, however i see disgruntled former dems as part of donalds followerers, trump may suceed in forming a break away party, maybe, there is no such thing as a dixecrat liberal, they were conservative by nature

 

You seem to be a bit dictionary challenged.

MERRIAM-WEBSTER DICTIONARY,
vigilante noun
vig· i· lan· te ˌvij-ə-ˈlant-ē
: a member of a group of volunteers who decide on their own to stop crime and to punish criminals

An armed general public is not a "group of volunteers" let alone a "vigilance committee".
An armed people may still rely on police to investigate and enforce the law.
Of course there would be little reason for many of the police to be armed.

 

It's distressing that those who are either cloistered, naive or clueless want to limit a private citizen's ability to defend himself and his family against multiple assailants.

When it's 3AM, you're half asleep and you hear glass breaking downstairs, you don't know how many people you might have to confront before the police show up..... if they show up.
While you're getting your firearm and flashlight, you don't have an extra hand to carry a spare magazine unless you feel like you have time to put on a holster.

Anyone that breaks into a home they know to be occupied usually has less than benevolent plans for the occupants so other things you have to consider like finding a safe place for unarmed family members to hide and using the lighting to your advantage (in other words, don't get "back lit").
My point is that in such a stressful situation you have too much to think about without feeling like you have to count how many rounds you've expended.

Yes, it can happen to anyone.

Thanks,

 

i am anti-gun, but if i really felt a gun was needed would get one regardless of any laws..do you always drive the speed limit?

 

when you tell that to those who want to ban guns and magazines, they don't care. THEY DON'T WANT THE HOMEOWNER to win that confrontation

 

Honesty is refreshing.

 

you are pushing it

 

a major part of my 25 yr tirp in sobriety is to say what i mean and mean what i say, our word is one of the only things we really have

 

I have been dealing with the anti gun movement for going on five decades. Lots of them hate anyone who advocates self defense and many of them see violent felons as the victims of an unjust society, No one, I repeat no one can possibly believe that a magazine ban will hinder someone who already is committing a felony by merely possessing a gun, let alone committing armed robbery.

 

i can understand your frustration, many times i just step away from discussions as my peace of mind is more important many things, i believe this gun debate will continue a long time

 

I have had more experience with guns than I would have preferred. They are maintenance headache and I have tried to avoid having anything ti do with them since my time in the military. Nevertheless, the people need guns

Senator Bill Fulbright was a "liberal" and a Dixiecrat. Ditto Sen. Joe Biden.

““In the work he did, the words he spoke and the life he lived, Bill Fulbright stood against the 20th Century’s most destructive forces and fought to advance its brightest hopes.”

Clinton recalled Fulbright’s early and lonely opposition to then-President Lyndon B. Johnson’s prosecution of the Vietnam War as personally courageous and politically costly because it pitted him against powerful members of his own party.

But it followed the pattern of the Arkansan’s political life, which was marked by speaking out on behalf of the fledgling United Nations and against the spread of the atom bomb and Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy’s anti-communist witch hunts, the President said.

“Time and again, for 32 years as a congressman, a senator, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, he worked for progress and peace, often against great odds and sometimes at great personal cost,” Clinton said.”
THE WASHINGTON POST, President Eulogizes Former Mentor--William Fulbright : Memorial: Clinton calls the late Arkansan a lifelong student and teacher and credits him with making the world a better place., BY JOHN M. BRODER, FEB. 18, 1995.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-02-18-mn-33379-story.html

Which is not to say that all the Big Government factions do not belong on the same end of any rational political spectrum.

 

my father was a pearl harbor survivor/veteran and he forbid his son (me) from joining any military, and from what i read about george Wallace, he helped many blackmen personally, the segregationist stance was political mainly to get voters

 

Yeah, it's a damn shame. Show and Tell has been replaced by Tell me your pronouns.

 

Race theory provided a convenient excuse, first for slavery and then for Jim Crow, but political survival was always at stake. By the end of the Civil War black Americans were a majority in at least three states and would have guaranteed RP rule in every Southern state after the war if free and fair elections had ever been allowed.
Disarming and disenfranchising black Americans was the highest priority for the survival of the DP and white rule.

The SCOTUS had to virtually nullify the 2nd, 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments to pull that off. Shameful history.

 

He has none, and therefore concedes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Thanks for contacting me. I appreciate your directness and assume that your are from Brazil where excellent firearms are made.

I am pro 2nd Amendment but feel that people can hold different opinions and disagree with mutual respect and civility.

I was taught to be careful with firearms before I can even remember. I started shooting when I was about 6 - 8 years old.
I was teaching other children to shoot safely when I was 12. I was given a 1923 9mm German Luger when I was 15 which, at the time, you could take to school for "Show and Tell" day. In the military, I became proficient with a wide variety of firearms, heavy machine guns, grenade launchers etc and I've had to use a pistol to defend myself about 3 times over the decades.

Because I was taught that a good firearm is something to appreciate: the machining, craftsmanship, function, accuracy and, above all, dangerous, It's only natural that we would have different attitudes towards firearms.

You mentioned that: "if i really felt a gun was needed would get one regardless of any laws.."

It's been my experience that when you really need a gun, you need it NOW.

When someone has broken into your house at night, you don't have time to go out and get a gun.

If you're interested in defending yourself and your family, wouldn't you rather already have and know how to use a firearm than worry about finding one later?

Thanks,

 

Once again, your post is not worth an answer. You are cherry picking and not looking at the overall picture.

Bottom line is that the U.S. has a problem that is bigger than other countries and more guns is what has caused it.

 

Not all communists. Vietnam has made their mix of communism with some free market elements an extremely good fit for their people. Their economic growth is spectacular, their work ethic exemplary, and their national cohesion remains amazing. It's failed everywhere else, and it certainly would never work here, I'll grant you that.

 

when facts reared their fearsome head,Brave Sir Lucky turned and fled!

Can you address his main point-that gun control laws are far more likely to disarm or hinder the selfdefense of honest people versus disarming people who already break numerous felony laws?

 

It's been my observation that the same people who support putting violent criminals back on the street are the same people who want to disarm law abiding American citizens.

What do you think?

Thanks,

 

You continue to attempt to bring me down with this example or that example but you are not addressing the objective of the OP, which is that we have a gun problem and a gun control problem. That is what this OP is all about. We have more gun killings here in the U.S. than at any other country in the world of our caliber. We should be leading the world in safety of our people and yet we lead the world (nations of our quality) in the risk of getting shot with a gun.

Already this month (January 2023) we have seen 43 mass shootings here in the U.S. That kind of numbers are not found anywhere else in nations of our quality. We have a problem and you are ignoring it.

 

yep, and often the same people who hate the police and want to cut their budgets and call them racists are the same woke types who want only police to have legal firearms

 

continuing to complain about a problem without ever suggesting a rational solution is pretty worthless IMHO.. And Teddy Roosevelt agrees

“Complaining about a problem without proposing a solution is called whining” – Teddy Roosevelt