Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    SO, it was so important to national security not to release the videos that posed such a massive danger.... they ended up releasing the videos through Carlson's show.

    Uh huh. Makes sense. /sarcasm.


    Manipulating it, or showing the parts the left and the media didn't want to show?

    It's seriously ironic you take such issue with Carlson's release of suppressed footage that wasn't originally contained in the cherry-picked footage... then claim he is cherry picking.

    Exposing cherry picking, is not cherry picking.


    I didn't vote for Trump either time. So your ASSumptions... ya know.


    You're trying to make it the whole point to avoid having to discuss the real point... original suppression and censorship. Focusing on me, on Carlson, and Fox News, is just a ploy to deflect away from addressing the primary issue the videos exposed.




    Uh huh.





    Well, I would expect you to carry that perspective since you are unable to see the very clear picture of who suppressed, censored, and determined what information should be disseminated and you prescribe to their desired censorship and bias.


    This is all off-topic partisan blathering.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have all these boogeyman scape goats.

    Ermehgerd! Fox News!

    All of this is just distractions to prevent you from having to discuss censorship that's literally being proven as occurring right under your nose.

    But you're so entrenched and subscribed to the "Republicans are terrorists" mindset being fed to you, you can't even see it.

    Honestly, when people say "how could people get on board with the nazi agenda" back in WWII, we are honestly witnessing it right now.

    I am an advocate of full dissemination of information, freedom of speech, and am rightfully inherently skeptical of government. As much as you try, you aren't going to be able to make those negative things. Instead, you deflect to left wing platitudes and talking points.

    Its wrong to manipulate information. End. Of. Story.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. So in the face of all of the facts and highly publicized criticism of the coverage, you attack the source.

    You don't want to admit the truth.

    Im kind of done in this thread. The left wing fan boys who are prescribed to every talking point of the left and their media outlets, they don't want to actually critically evaluate whats literally happening in front of your nose.

    Dismiss, deflect, diminish.

    That's the game.

    Whatever.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even AFTER the facts started to come out, the media CONTINUES to push their narrative claiming the proceedings are potentially "rigged".

    The media is playing people for fools, and if they scream loud enough "Fox News!" all the time, nobody will call out their BS.

    Hook line and sinker on some of you.

     
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    Yes, he aired video of violence, because it made the broadcast far more credible -- he did not have to do that.

    Tucker Carlson could have aired only clips of the hundreds of thousands of peaceful demonstrators, but that would not have been as effective as a more even handed approach.
    TC is clearly smarter than the MSM hacks and party bosses who reflexively attacked him - many of them had clearly not watched the broadcast.
    McConnell, Schumer, Kennedy, Romney... all looked like idiots to anyone who has watched TC's careful and essentially accurate description of J6.

    Carlson tends to kick his opposition in the crotch just often enough to enrage them and unhinge their brains.
    IMO, anyone who really wants to damage TC's credibility will have more luck if they focus on cattle mutilations and UFO stories. ;-)
     
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    That is true, and the DP establishment is starting to pay through the nose for their uncommon level of stupidity and usual corruption.

    As the federal court judge found, our clients’ lawsuit exposed the cover-up of its highest ranking officials who destroyed their text communications with each other,” Calfo said.
    While the Black Lives Matter protests were mostly peaceful, the retreat of law enforcement from Capitol Hill preceded vandalism and two fatal shootings, including the death of 19-year-old Lorenzo Anderson, who bled to death after being rushed to a hospital in the back of a pickup because police and firefighters refused to respond to the incident.”
    “The lawsuit’s cost to Seattle citizens likely will increase, as the city hired outside attorneys to defend the litigation. City attorney’s spokesperson Marina Udodik said the office could not immediately provide an accounting of legal fees paid to those attorneys.”
    SEATTLE TIMES, LAW & JUSTICE, Seattle settles CHOP lawsuit for $3.6M, with $600K for deleted texts, By Mike Carter Seattle Times staff reporter, Updated,Feb. 17, 2023 at 8:26 pm
    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...lawsuit-for-3-6m-with-600k-for-deleted-texts/
     
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    I don't know, Chris-- you know you like to keep the ultimate intention of your profuse questioning, close to your vest. Until you finally decide to state a point, all I can do, is guess.

    So all the Tucker hubbub, from the Right, is because people who were shocked at an attempt to interfere with our government's peaceful transfer of power, made small assumptive jumps-- I believe the coroner
    did list the stress, of the prior day, as a contributing factor in Sicknick's death-- or were even a little hyperbolic? And this is such a big deal, even though the details that are being questioned-- like why Josh Hawley was running-- do not change the overall narrative, that our Congress needed to be evacuated from the Capitol, for their own safety, because Right wing media never overplays connections, or is hyperbolic?
     
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    LOL, yourself-- you are the one who just dismissed the fact that both I, and the Left wing Media, have admitted to getting things wrong-- both details, within this larger story of the January 6th Capitol attack, as well as in the new thread, here, about the Left's faulty spin, back with the Rittenhouse story.

    FOX NEWS, on the other hand, still puts My Pillow guy, Mike Lindell, on the air, spouting his election conspiracy theories. And they have a news blackout, on their network, about their being sued by Dominion voting machines, which FOX recklessly slandered, even though they knew how wacked-out, and fraudulent, were their sources. Yet, here is the Right, trying to point to details which were presented with a subjective spin, albeit not totally invented, like the election conspiracies. And these relatively minor details, the Right is crafting into a narrative, calling the attackers of the Capitol, "sightseers," and labelling January 6th, "a mostly peaceful protest."


    "Dismiss, deflect, diminish"-- you are completely correct: that is the game. Where you make your mistake, is in identifying whose game, it really is.
     
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    Your criticism is not relevant to Jan 6 2021 and the tapes associated with it.

    Deflecting is a weak argument.
    Congress was taken over on 1/6/21 and they went into hiding. That is undeniable.
     
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    Doesn't shock me coming from someone who idolizes fascists as your avatar proves. LOL
     
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    Doesn't count because they don't count. I posted the website and that website has the receipts.

    Find something else to panic over.
     
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    Well, let's just leave it at "assumptive jumps." I'm not sure that they were all "small."

    The point is that the narrative was that he was killed with a fire extinguisher. That was totally fake news.

    The footage that Tucker showed with Hawley running was revealing, because it added context which the Jan 6 Committee left out, and that was other people running down the same corridor. Only showing Hawley was to make him look cowardly. As it turns out, there were many people ahead of him running.
     
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    I fail to see what point you want to make?
    Some officers let people in. They should be fired and be brought up on charges of aiding and abetting.

    That doesn't change anything of those that barrelled over the police barrier.
     
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    It means that anyone let into the Capitol and led around by police officials should never have been arrested.
     
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    Of course they should be arrested, along with the police officers who let them in.

    ...
    The U.S. Capitol is secured 24 hours a day by U.S. Capitol Police. Only authorized people
    with appropriate identification are allowed access inside the U.S. Capitol. Restrictions around the
    U.S. Capitol include permanent and temporary security barriers and posts manned by U.S. Capitol
    Police. On January 6, 2021, permanent and temporary security barriers were in place to separate
    areas where lawful first amendment activity could be conducted from areas restricted both to
    prevent any adverse impact on the legislative process and to safeguard and prevent and property
    damage directed at the U.S. Capitol and West Front Inaugural Platform.
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1355996/download
     
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    I am not a defender of Fox News, nor am I even a republican.

    The only reason you keep going back to that over and over again is because its the only possible option you have to deflect from what's being called out... your media is lying to you.

    If you have to spin back to "Fox News This" "Fox News That"... you already failed in your argument.
     
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    Never tried to deny that. Actually, in this very thread I condemned the actions of the protestors.

    Not sure what that has to do with the price of rice in China?

    My point is... your media is routinely lying to you. And you accept that. That is undeniable.
     
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    My media. From deflection to projecting.
     
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    And what do the attempts to overturn the election have to do with McCarthy making a promise to release the footage?
     
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    How does saying that he "made a promise" mean that "the footage was only gong to be released to one individual and one individual alone?"
     
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    You actually think that the media did not make the Shaman the face of the event? :roflol:
     
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    Ok. Now we are going in circles.

    Clearly you don't want to discuss how the media lied.

    I dont blame you, it's indefensible.
     
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    9/23/21 ....
    US District Chief Judge Beryl Howell ordered the videos released in response to a request from a media coalition. He rebuffed the government’s argument that releasing more surveillance videos posed a national security risk. Tucker shows the Capitol videos on National TV... so this has been going on for 2 years now... did the left have a cow back then?


    Unsealed January 6 Video Showing People Calmly Walking Inside Capitol Viewed 1.7M Times

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-footage-lawsuit-release-insurrection
    https://www.newsweek.com/january-capitol-riot-video-footage-calm-twitter-1631994

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21063267/9-15-21-opinion-eric-torrens-videos.pdf

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    Does this look familiar... it was in 2021
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-media-insurrection

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