Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did the committee for January 6 or the media release the video or present the video that showcased officers escorting people through the building?

    Yes or no.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh boy. The "but capitalism" now.

    Anything that prevents you from condemning censorship.

    So far, all the left has done here is try to excuse or dismiss censorship. It's very telling.
     
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    I haven't watched any of the video. I am not relying on the video presented. I have seen pictures of the day that are posted all over the internet.
    I don't need to see the J6 or tucker videos to know what happened.

    Did the congress go into hiding that day?

    And does it matter? Everyone knows there were people illegally being escorted by officers.

    Those officers and people being escorted broke the law. They all should be punished and the officers should lose their jobs.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Naomi Wolf has more dignity and intellectual honesty than the average Democrat. RFK Jr too....
     
  6. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Not convenient, just truthful. You are spiraling into conspiracy theory with Ray Epps, Even his testimony is worth noting and shows his background and how the riiot has gone about.
     
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    Separate issue which I have discussed the brady rule in detail on several threads AND given the hypothetical of 1000 hours of tape example. However, the "cut footage" being shown by Tucker does not exonerate any of the defendants so far, not even Jacob Chansley.


    I already have.
     
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    The charges won't be dismissed and no Brady Rule violation has occurred. For that to happen, the Defense must win its motion on the claim and/or the Prosecution must admit the error. Neither will happen IMO.

    Again, the footage being left out are not material and are not favorable to the defense for the crimes they are charged with.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Can you tell us what the cross examination of Ray Epps shows during his Select Committee testimony....... he is just taken at his word... no verification or follow up at all....
    but who can't sympathize with ole grandpa with 38 grandkids.... and I mean, who can argue that he was, per him, "trying to stop the violence""..... but a good cross examination may have shown a different results.... but the cross exams take so darn long...

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg...8864/pdf/GPO-J6-TRANSCRIPT-CTRL0000038864.pdf

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    What cross-examination? He was not on trial in a court of law. He was offering testimony, called disposition, as a witness. Hence no cross-examination. He was represented by counsel, and there were a few times his counsel stepped in and protected his rights.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Exactly.... it was never intended to ever be tried in a court of law..... it sole purpose was to try it in the "court of public opinion" no messy cross exams or representation but by only one side....

    But can you please show us where any video out there that shows Epps telling anybody to go into the Capitol "peacefully"... that is what he testified to...

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg...8864/pdf/GPO-J6-TRANSCRIPT-CTRL0000038864.pdf

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    The best part of Epps's testimony.... he was trying to blame the violence on Antifa...... as he was standing next to "Mr. Antifa" himself in the Jan. 5 video...... What are the odds the committee missed the very picture showing the FBI plant Ray Epps and Antifa activist John Sullivan together?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/antifa-sullivan-fbi-plant.jpg

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    A disposition, the same one that Trump and hundreds of thousands of others have given, is very common. It is the official testimony of their statements. If or when a trial commences, that is when cross-examination occurs, not in disposition. Geez, your lack of knowledge in basic judicial proceedings astounds me.

    In other words, if defense wants to use Ray Epps as a witness or if prosecution wants to use Ray Epps as a witness in the trial, that disposition would occur. Second, we had two Republicans on the January 6th committee. You can't complain because your leaders CHOOSE, not to participate. That is just as bad and hypocritical as someone who complains about the government but never votes or participates in the process.
     
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    John Sullivan is a photojournalist that day. But he also participated. And yes, he was arrested by the FBI. He was arraigned and eventually posted bail, aka released, with some heavy restrictions such as only being allowed to post on social media for jobs, only being allowed to leave his home for work or church or court dates, cannot possess any firearms, etc. He was a member of Proud Boys and was expelled, which means he is battier than Henry Tarrio. But he is definitely not Anfifa.

    https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/1...d-role-in-u-s-capitol-riot-insurrection-trump

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/01/15/utah-activist-john/
     
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    Well, you also claim that the Lying Outlaw Slavers of Beijing, who traffic in forced organ 'donation' are great folks. I've seen the lengths you'll go to defend the narrative, and you never admit it when your previous prognostications are falsified, so, I'll wait for the results and watch for an opportunity to remind you of your confident claims here, at the time of my choosing.

    See Jonathan Turley - if the DOJ had this evidence, and it seems that they did, and they withheld it from the Court, then this Navy Vet's constitutional rights were violated.
     
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    Oh my liberal friend..... how uninformed and gullible some people are...

    John Sullivan.... An Antifa and BLM Activist ..... and look... not only was he with Epps..... he was literally at the Ashli Babbitt ambush and murder...

    https://rumble.com/v19iv62-absolute...orm-capitol-on-january-6th-john-sullivan.html

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    LOL another deflection by you because you can't deal with reality, at least your first part.

    Jonathan Turley would have you believe that if a priosioner who is convicted does not get his chocolate pudding, then it is cruel and unusaul punishment by the prison system. You may want to look deeper. For the violation to occur, it is not the videos per se, it is whether or not the videos were material and favorable. Were they favorable that you have seen? No, they were not.
     
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    I am not your friend.

    Second, you are citing an internet conspiracy theory. Talk about being guillible. There is zero evidence he is Antifa or BLM. NOt at all.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    The video doesn’t lie… he is not wearing a maga t-shirt….
     
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    I have seen the videos and none of them don't exonerate a single person for their crime. that is incontrovertible.

    BTW, one does not need to wear a hat to identify themselves as Trump supporters just as one does not need a Cowboy Hat to identify them as a Native Texan
     
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    You ask the questions and answer them while pretending to engage in dialogue? I'll leave you to indulge in your self-stimulatory behavior.

    TOO MANY OF THE DEMS ATTEMPT AT TOTALITARIANISM WON’T LAST: Gleichschaltung in the age of oligarchic soft fascism.

    'Fascism involves government control, but not ownership, of the means of production. Private companies exist, but they’re simply arms of the government.'

    THE VOTERS WERE WISE TO TURN THE HOUSE OVER TO THE GOP

    'That’s pretty much how things work in America today, except that even functions traditionally government-performed in countries like Hitler’s Germany and Mussolini’s Italy have been outsourced to private organizations.'

    ITS CRUMBLING AROUND THEIR FASCISTIC EARS WITH EACH NEW HAMMER BLOW TO THEIR REDICULOUSLY CONTRIVED NARRATIVE.

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    HERE, WE RELISH OUR FREEDOM LIBERTY!

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    What about it?
     
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    No. The media made Trump the face of the event. Are you new here?
     
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    My source says you're wrong bruh.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.

    Not everybody knew officers were apparently escorting people... because that video was suppressed.

    That's the point.
     

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