Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

That video has been available for over a year. LOL Reds simply didn't give a **** to watch ANY J6 footage until tucker force fed them horseshit.

 

this is what I think. I think you are using this from Tucker as fake outrage in order to prove to yourself that you are morally and ethically superior. that is it. I did not use the word insurrection. I defined it in a technical sense, and the judge used it to deny his bail in 2021. But that is to the extent of it. We do have 18 USC 2383, rebellion or insurrection, but for that to happen, another, quite literally, shooting civil war would have to happen for that to be on the table legally. But I do think that you do want him not charged, which will prove to you and the Right, this victimhood complex the GOP has developed.

He wasn't charged with trespassing. He was charged with obstruction of an official proceeding.

Yes, specifically the video of Jacob Chansley who was escorted by two capitol police officers in which Tucker is suggesing that the whole thing was not a riot, but were allowed into the capital by police. That was the conspiracy then and now.

Yes.

Epps was there and it does not matter whether he was there for the entire time or part of the time, but he was there. And he was identified as a person of interest. From there, the rest is history.

 

LOL, this about sums it up.

 

There was. Your not being aware of it, is indicative of how deficient was the attention you paid, to the reporting.

So that is your main point? Well that can easily be discarded then, as this reason you give, for a premature, false report, does not prove the motivation you attribute, to the mistake. The reason, is because it was NEWS. Note that one cannot spell "news," without "new." The press is always in a race, to be the first to report some news.This leads, not uncommonly, to inaccuracies, especially in more chaotic events, like this one.

Tellingly, you assume erroneous reports on the Left, are on purpose, intended to push a desired "narrative," and yet you will probably not admit that all of FOX News' patently false reports, about Dominion voting machines, and other, potential "election fraud," was its own, pushing a desired narrative: the one desired by its viewers.

That "something," is only your own bias, once again, just as demonstrated in your prior quote.

 

The other poster must have agreed.
Hasn't been in the thread since his/her claim was noted as not factual.

 

It amazes me that they are so easily fooled and believe the word of a dipshit liar whose employer said should not be taken seriously. LOL

 

The "tactics" of "political propaganda smears?"

 

Why?

 

Yes, no officers died ON Jan 6, but can we say that none of the five deaths are CONNECTED to Jan 6?

 

Really, Chris, I'm getting a little exasperated:
1) The topic is Tucker's selective playing of a few minutes of tape, out of thousands of hours-- not the BLM protests. Since you are not saying that those protests were mostly peaceful-- even though your source, is-- your whataboutism serves no purpose, other than your way of saying that the facts of the attack on the Capitol are irrelevant to you, if you can find any incident, about which you feel the "left" has been disingenuous (which has got to make me reconsider, if it is then worth trying to "debate" you on an issue you are admitting you will not judge, on its own merits).

2) Learn how to make a decent analogy. You need to adjust for things such as number of people involved, scope, and duration. The Floyd protests lasted two weeks, and spanned the country, involving probably millions of people. The assault on the Capitol lasted a matter of hours, occurred in one relatively small, concentrated area, and involved a few thousand people. If you want to scale J6 up to match the numbers & duration of the Floyd protests, that's fine, go ahead. Otherwise, it is a worthlessly meaningless comparison.

Speaking, though, of violence in the Floyd protests, you should not count, what the info portrays as potentially innocent protestors, such as the first one, listed below, which resulted in the immediate dismissal of the Louisville Police Chief. The three after, do not list any reasons for the police use of force-- unlike others, in the article-- so could just as soon be police misconduct; or, at least, could be completely unrelated to the protest.

Then comes one, which it says is not clearly connected, as the black victim had not even been protesting. Followed by two, who had
been peacefully protesting, but got run over by vehicles-- disingenuous, to include these in the total of harm caused by protesters. Then there is one who police say was shot by 3 men stealing his car-- no reason to connect this to the protest. So that would bring the total down to 12 deaths, in 14 days, over the whole country, with exponentially more protestors, than J6. After those 7 that were clearly not, or were very questionably, due to the Floyd protests, I included others to show you (in case you hadn't read your article) that whenever something like looting was even going on in the area, it is mentioned, even if it may not apply, in the particular case.


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TOPLINE Topline: Though curfews are lifting and protests remain predominantly peaceful, the death toll from two weeks of demonstrations over the death of George Floyd continues to creep upward, with at least 19 people—a majority of whom are black—now dead

KEY FACTS

David McAtee, 53, Kentucky: McAtee was shot on the morning of June 1 as National Guard troops and local police tried to disperse crowds of protestors in Louisville; his death led to the immediate firing of Louisville Metro Police Chief Steve Conrad, as two of the officers involved in the shooting had not activated body cameras.


Calvin L. Horton Jr., 43, Minnesota: Horton was fatally shot near the Minneapolis Police Department’s Third Precinct two days after Floyd’s death in what is believed to be the first killing since the protests began.


Italia Kelly, 22, Iowa: Kelly was shot and killed around midnight on May 31 while leaving a protest outside a Walmart in Davenport, Iowa (see next)

Marquis M. Tousant, 23, Iowa: Tousant was found dead at the same scene as Kelly, outside the Davenport Walmart, where authorities say a police ambush unfolded


Javar Harrell, 21, Michigan: Harrell was shot May 29 as protests erupted in Detroit; his family has said that he was not protesting and it’s not clear whether his death is connected to the protests.


Robert Forbes, 55, California: Forbes died on June 6, a few days after he was struck by a car while peacefully protesting in California City.


Barry Perkins, 29, Missouri: The St. Louis resident was reportedly run over and killed by a FedEx truck while attending a protest on May 30.


Marvin Francois, 50, Missouri: Francois was fatally shot after a protest in Kansas City on May 31, with police reporting his killers were three men attempting to steal his car.



David Dorn, 77, Missouri: The retired St. Louis police captain was killed by people looting a pawn shop after midnight on June 2, according to authorities.


John Tiggs, 32, Illinois: Tiggs was fatally struck in the abdomen by shots fired inside a Metro PCS during lootings in the South Side of Chicago on May 31

Jose Gutierrez, 28, Illinois: Gutierrez was shot on June 1 in the Chicago suburb of Cicero, where unrest and looting led the city to declare a state of emergency.

Victor Cazares Jr., 27, Illinois: Cazares was killed by a shot to the head in Cicero in a separate incident on the same day; both deaths have been ruled as homicides.


Chris Beaty, 38, Indiana: Just a few feet from his apartment, the former Indiana University football player and local business owner was killed on May 30 amid unrest in Indianapolis

Dorian Murrell, 18, Indiana: Only a few hours after Beaty’s death, Murrell was fatally wounded in an early morning shooting on May 31.


James Scurlock, 22, Nebraska: A violent encounter with a white bar owner, Jake Gardner, during a protest in Omaha on May 30 led to the death of 22-year-old Scurlock, who is black. Surveillance footage shows Scurlock jumping on Gardner; the Douglas County Attorney’s Office determined that Garner acted in self-defense and he will not face charges.

 

Then you should be able to link to a media article which details it.

This is not about proof. It is my opinion that the media was far too quick to report this, without verifying it, because it was pretty convenient for the unbelievably stupid 'deadly insurrection' narrative. The key point here which I somehow forgot to present in my previous reply, is that REGARDLESS of the motivation, this false story was widely reported as was the 'deadly insurrection' narrative that it helped to fuel. And so Tucker was simply using his large platform to set the record straight. Also, it's interesting that you did not challenge my characterisation of the 'deadly insurrection' narrative as "unbelievably stupid." Perhaps this is because you have functioning eyes and you can see that it was far from being a 'deadly insurrection!'

Yes and it's funny that the "inaccuracies" always tend to go one way, which goes against one particular side of politics. How often do you see the media misreporting something which makes the left look bad?

Oh, not at all. Fox News definitely push a desired narrative desired by its viewers. It's just that the rest of the 'Big 5'
media corporations go the other way. So many more people are getting left-wing biased news than right-wing.

It's backed up by what I see as an attempt by the media to severely downplay the 2020 riots.

 

Well you can think what you like. The fact is that I am using this footage from Tucker to support my position than January 6 was NOT the deadly insurrection that the dominant left-wing media said it was.

WTF? You and the judge are the only people who talked about "insurrection" with regard to Jan 6? Also, can you link to a source which mentions the judge talking about insurrection? I can't find anything. How embarrassing that a judge referred to it as insurrection! He/she should be LAUGHED out of their own courtroom!

Yes, so you agree with me that the media was full of crap. Anyone who knows what an "insurrection" is can join us!

Why the hell would you think that? Is that based on anything at all? Or just a giant assumption?

No, Tucker did not say that Chansley was let in, nor anyone else. And I have no clue what you're referring to when you say the "video" -"being used to excuse all 1000 people who rioted." Let me ask you this: have you even seen Carlson's report in full?

Quote Carlson saying that Chansley and those who were rioting were antifa and BLM. You can't can you?

Oh, it doesn't matter, even if what the January 6 Committee said was wrong?

 

I don't care. Either you can keep up with me or you can't.

"Selectively playing of a few minutes of tape" just like the January 6 Commission. It turns out that two can play at that game.

You were most happy to play into my analogy, when you asked "how many injuries" there were in the 2020 riots. Well do you have the answer? And are you suggesting/saying that there were less injuries than Jan 6?

Two weeks? Wow, where are you getting that from? In reality they lasted for pretty much the rest of the year!

Fair point. So then lets think about it on an individual level: The media calls MANY of the individual 2020 protests "mostly peaceful", and rightly so. But they do not hold the same standard when reporting on the January 6 protest, which to them was 100% violent. Further, the media exclusively refers to the 2020 protests/riots as "protests", regardless of whether they involved riots. Those who rioted were still labeled as a "protestor', just not of the peaceful variety. January 6 on the other hand is exclusively referred to as the "Capitol RIOT" or the "Capitol ATTACK" or "ATTACK on the Capitol", and all of those who participated in it were labeled as "RIOTERS." It really is quite telling. Page one of Google search results for "January 6 protest" literally returns ZERO matching results! Wanna guess how many matching results there are for "George Floyd protest?" Yeah, more than a few!

As you can see from the below screenshot, riots were still "protests." (Click to enlarge.) So why wasn't Jan 6 treated the same? After all, it WAS a protest which turned violent. That's just a plain and simple fact.

Do you break down the deaths related to Jan 6 in the same analytical way? How many deaths were related to January 6?

 

You don't think that Fox is guilty of that?

 

I mean in their coverage of the riot. Trump wasn't there, so he cannot have been in the footage.

 

Just watched it. Tucker should. He probably has but it doesn't fit his narrative.

 

Do you have a link to this documentary, please? I am only seeing pay sites.

 

Do you have a link to this documentary, please? I am only seeing HBO pay sites.

 

StillBlue ""You have to download from HBO""...

Yes..... I see that.... but I can not watch it because I don't pay or subscribe to HBO .... kind of hard to see the "in their own words what they were walking with those dipshits. " if it is behind a paywall...
https://www.hbo.com/movies/four-hours-at-the-capitol is a pay site.

 

How does it conflict with what Carlson said?

 

Carlson did not make any claim as to the officers' motivation for walking the Shaman around.

 

You haven't seen the reporting about the officers walking the Shaman around as a "de-escalation tactic?"

 

Of course. I've also seen him inciting mobs while sitting in the Speaker's chair.
I hear Charles Mason once helped an old lady cross the street, he still belongs in prison.

 

No.... it is a pay site..... you have to have a HBO subscription to see it...

 

Shaman in the seat at 7min