“TRUMP ASKED US TO GO HOME”; Video Re-Surfaces Of Jacob Chansley Urging Peace

Story 1 Epps is a conspiracy theory built on a lot of assumptions...it's not FACTS

Story 2 If true, is about a counter protest by "someone" (the writer states they were ANTIFA without providing any evidence) that involved one of the counter protestors pushing a woman and then being chased and thrown to the ground by Trump supporters who, apparently, were about to attack him and then the police intervening. NOTHING about Antifa infiltrators initiating the storming of the Capitol in order to blame Trump supporters.

Story 3 Is just a lie.

 

It absolutely can be. But it only works when there is a clear image of a face. If we're speaking of this specific incident, and more particularly, the horned dude, you can see that from half a mile away, but facial rec doesn't work at those distances.

Though you would probably be surprised what modern surveillance cameras are capable of. I purchased a gun some years back from a security manager for a major retailer I guarantee you have heard of, and he gave me a mini tour. One thing he showed me was the tiny little cameras installed on the ceilings that had to be at least 50' above the floor if not more zoom in so close that we were literally able to read people's phones if they were facing the right direction. That's one way they catch bad guys, because they figure if nobody is peering over their shoulder, what they're saying to someone maybe out in the parking lot is known only to themselves.

Oh, how wrong they are! They can't stop everything, and these days, at least in some States, the SOP is to just let people steal whatever they want, but when the pendulum swings back the other way...

 

Well...
Let me rephrase that...
What EXACTLY do all off these people raging over these "snippets of thousands of hours of video taken by capital security cameras" expect to happen? Exactly?
Free Everyone?
Give Pardons?
Drop Charges?
Re-Install Trump as President?
^WHAT...EXACTLY...Are People Expecting to Happen?

 

It verifies that there were eyewitnesses to their presence. You can dispute the claim, but I'm not sure how you would. All you can say is the witnesses haven't testified under oath. The problem with that is they probably wouldn't be asked to testify.

 

I worked at a company that had state of the art security cameras (required because of its government work). It could see a flea on your shoulder from 300 feet away.

The Intel community surely has ways of pulling off specific faces from a sea of faces.

 

Pro-Trump protester Ray Epps told Jan. 6 committee 'crazy' conspiracy theories tore apart his life
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...6-committee-crazy-conspiracy-theori-rcna63615

 

Epps instigated the riot both on Jan 5 and 6. That fact confirmed by video.

There is no claim that Antifa intimated the riot.

“Story 3” is factual.

 

Nope. Because as my post said, EVEN YET TODAY. IE, no exculpatory evidence has been shown yet at this point.

Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

Of course he has certain rights. I am sure is previous lawyer knew all about those rights. He better have.
What sort of video/evidence can undo his plea?

He was in the Capitol illegally.
Congress was obstructed from their duty.

He plead guilty to the obstruction part and cleared of all others.

 

He instigated the riot on both Jan 5 and Jan 6. He was accused by peaceful protestors of being a Fed infiltrator. He was a lead instigator but never brought to trial.


“Biggs rallies the group with a bullhorn. “We love Trump! We love Trump!” Ryan Samsel, a Pennsylvania resident on parole with a history of assault convictions, briefly speaks to Biggs. As he walks toward a line of people standing in front of five ill-equipped Capitol Police officers he is approached by another man, subsequently identified as Ray Epps, who whispers into Samsel’s ear. Epps is later heard on tape repeatedly telling groups of Trump supporters the night before to go inside the Capitol on January 6. As people leave Trump’s speech that afternoon, Epps, wearing a Trump hat, is again seen on video shouting orders to passersby: “We are going to the Capitol where our problems are,” Epps yells. Pointing toward the building, he shouts, “It’s that direction.” After Epps speaks to him, Samsel confronts police, compelling several individuals to help him overrun a barricade of bike racks and light fencing; video shows one officer knocked to the ground. “We don’t have to hurt you, why are you standing in our way?” Samsel asks one officer. Others join in, pushing police backwards and tossing aside temporary metal barriers. Two men on top of the steps furiously wave people in the direction of the building. Biggs and others “shook the metal fence until it broke apart and toppled at their feet,” prosecutors wrote in a criminal complaint filed against Biggs in March. They then stomped over the racks and headed toward the building. Samsel, wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat turned backwards, jogs up the steps to the west side of the Capitol building, followed by other protesters who overwhelm the handful of officers stationed at the pedestrian entrance. This first mob, numbering roughly two hundred, makes its way to the west side of the building. Physical brawls break out between protesters and police; dozens push past police attempting to guard a set of stairs that leads to an upper terrace on the west side near the inauguration set-up. No one yet has breached the building.”

— January 6: How Democrats Used the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right by Julie Kelly
https://a.co/cBc5tQy


So did a man named Ray Epps. In another bombshell at Revolver, Beattie noted that despite egging on protesters on both January 5 and 6, the government had not charged Epps with any offense. He is clearly seen on at least three occasions encouraging people to storm the Capitol. During a confrontation between Trump supporters and BLM/ Antifa activists at Black Lives Matter Plaza across from the White House late on January 5, Epps told Trump supporters what they need to do the next day. “We need to go in to the Capitol,” Epps, wearing a Trump hat, yelled, pointing east toward the building. “Peacefully!” Some people smell a rat. They loudly shout “no” in response and a few start chanting “Fed! Fed! Fed!” For ninety minutes, Epps, who looks and sounds every bit the aging Marine sergeant that he is, tried to convince people to head to the Capitol on January 6. The next day, Epps is at it again. Shortly after Trump began his speech around noon, Epps is seen hollering at passersby, “After the speech, we are going to the Capitol. Where our problems are!” A half hour later, Epps whispered into the ear of Ryan Samsel just seconds before Samsel charged up the steps and became the first to breach the police line on the west side of the Capitol. As it turns out, Epps is more than a retired Marine who loves his country. He also is the former head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers, the group still run by Stewart Rhodes. They are photographed together at various events in 2011. Beattie also noted that after landing on the FBI’s most wanted Capitol protesters roster as early as January 8, Epps’ photo was quietly scrubbed from the list in July. But despite overwhelming evidence that Epps repeatedly attempted to incite the crowd over an eighteen-hour period, by November 1, he had still not been arrested. How could a man on the FBI’s most wanted list for six months, then suspiciously removed, remain scot-free while others accused of mere trespassing were hunted down by the FBI?”

— January 6: How Democrats Used the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right by Julie Kelly
https://a.co/a7CMper

 

The truth.

 

AT BEST it verifies that there are people that CLAIM to be eyewitnesses.

I could claim to be an eyewitness but that doesn't prove that I am or that I actually saw what I'm claiming.

 

I do not speak for ''People', just for myself, a Constitution loving rugged individualist who believes in personal responsibility, personal freedom, and for proper due process to be followed in criminal cases. I don't know if you saw me mention it earlier, but I was in a coma for a month and a half prior to 1/6, and about the same amount of time after, so when I woke up from my little Rip van Winkle, the only thing people were talking about was this thing I had never heard of called 'Covid', and the death of Kobe Bryant. Waking up to that was a mind f to the nth degree, I'll tell you what.

As a result, I'm not even sure when I first even learned of the events of 1/6, it was months later, possibly as much as a year or more. Since I was off in la-la-land at the time of the events, and since I didn't hear about them for a long period of time, I haven't seen it as an important enough event to spend any time researching, so I have no further expectations aside from the bolded above.

To be perfectly clear, my expectations of proper due process applies to all criminal matters, not just those surrounding the events of 1/6. But one thing that means is that prosecutors have an absolute obligation to supply the defense with any evidence that even might be exculpatory, in this case the videos that have caused such an uproar.

Whether or not any defendant chooses to use them in their defense is up to them and their counsel, and whether or not they actually do provide exculpatory evidence is ultimately up to a jury if it goes to trial.

That's it. I don't care who gets found guilty of what, as long as they are guilty as charged and all of their rights were respected during the process. As for Trump being reinstalled, that seems to somehow be your idea, as I've seen nobody else even mention it, but in case you are wondering, the only way Trump becomes POTUS again is if he runs and wins. Right now, unfortunately for your team, I think a deceased NYC subway rat could beat Biden with two legs tied behind it's back, but since a deceased subway rat is probably not going to run, it comes down to the Republican primary.

I am Team Desantis so far, but I am giving Vivek a hard look based on the advice of one of my oldest and dearest friends from West Point who I respect probably more than anyone on the planet except my wife. I'm not going to blindly follow his candidate, I might look at him and stay team Desantis, we'll see. Regardless, all talk of what is going to happen with all of that is way to premature to get too in depth into, and it's not particularly relevant aside from explaining to you how Trump might get back in office.

No discovery of voter fraud, incompetence, impropriety, or malfeasance of any kind, even if it proves that a proper count would have reelected him will put him back in office, but in the unlikely event that were to come to pass, it will create a Constitutional crisis the likes of which we've never before seen.

So, cool your jets, you don't have to worry about that until the fall of '24. I will predict that, were the election to be held today, Biden would lose to any of the announced or presumed candidates for the GOP. But the election is not being held today.

 

So it's your contention that anyone who claims to have heard or saw something should be dismissed as unreliable. Is that correct?

 

In other words "NOTHING" (Until the Next Election)...
Cool...That settles it...

 

“Munn’s comments directly contradict what will later be said by Chief Sund. “I need to tell you all that the media is LYING TO YOU… the DC police opened up on a small group climbing the scaffolding, with gas grenades… the concussions rippled through the crowd… which only ignited the crowd and patriots began chanting ‘they are stealing our country’ and ‘press forward’ as they were carrying the wounded out through us. The only damage to the capital [sic] building was several windows and sets of doors. Nothing inside the capital was damaged. As for the shooting, I did not see it but I can tell you, patriots NEVER made it to the chamber. There was no violence in the capital building, the crowd was NOT out of control… they were ANGRY!!! The media wasn’t even there, never saw any media or police… the vast majority of the crowd was heading back down Constitution and Pennsylvania avenues by 5pm, with virtually no police presence, as Antifa began marching through the middle of us towards the capital. They are now calling this and [sic] insurrection…?””

Story 3 is a lie.




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...1-5million-damage-January-6-insurrection.html

 

It's my contention that an unnamed person citing that they saw another unnamed person and recognized them as part of Antifa is a FAR CRY from being able to prove that Antifa had anything to do with 1/6

 

the White House is. Why don’t you try walking into the Oval Office?

 

Name drop time.

Cassidy Hutchinson.

How much of her testimony was an eyewitness accounting?

 

Then you aren't paying attention

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-supreme-court-trump-biden-election-850929590422

THE FACTS: Nearly one week after the Supreme Court justices doubled down on their decision not to hear the suit, social media users falsely claimed the opposite.

One Instagram post shared a screenshot of a headline reading: “Supreme Court To Hear Case To Reinstate Donald Trump Over ‘Rigged’ Election.” It had received nearly 1,400 likes as of Wednesday.

You have that backwards. A deceased NYC Rat could beat Trump. This is proven by the fact that Biden EASILY defeated Trump in 2020 despite no one really wanting Biden to be President.

Just as a side note, IMHO Trump IS a "deceased NYC rat"

 

Don't know, don't care since that is not the topic of discussion.

 

Clearly, you missed the differentiation evaluation. Public buildings have the concept of being open to the public built into them. Meaning that under the right circumstances, need etc that they are. You can even tour the WH, don't forget. And if said tour comes with the right donation to Hunter, evidently the Oval is a primary point of interest...

 

The current subject is about eyewitness accounts. If you didn't want to discuss that then why are you?

 

Someone forgot that the Capitol is not open to the public 24x7. Whoops.

 

You seem to be acknowledging that the public can only enter public buildings “under the right circumstances.” Were the circumstances right when the mob of Trumptards barged it it the capitol? If not, does that mean they were trespassing?

 

No, the current discussion...the subject of this thread even....is the events of 1/6. It got into a side discussion about conspiracy theories about 1/6 but at no point was Cassidy Hutchinson even close to what was being discussed.