Race/ethnicity and slacking at work

Training in my workplace definitely teaches you to treat them differently and that they are a protected class by law. Next time I take the course I will note it.

Can you think of any logical reason why whites are more productive than their colored peers?

 

I thought what I was describing is how managers and leaders in the company interact with employees and make them better employees and more productive. If we have the same approach for everyone how are we encouraging a select group to be less productive?

Maybe I am misunderstanding you. Why don't you give me an example from your workplace and how you caused POC to be less productive?

 

We don’t have the same approach for everyone. Don’t tell me there is no diversity training in your line of work.

 

How do you treat them differently? What are they protected from? I believe you work in tech so I am trying to fathom how you could treat a POC differently that would make them less productive? Do you change deadlines or the type of work you assign to POC? Many of our projects work on an agile development methodology where everyone's components have dependencies with others. PMs have a pretty firm grasp on what is happening on the project and manage according. I have never heard of any manager making decisions to accommodate POC.

 

Of course. I mention that we have the "woke" training courses pushed out by HR. To be honest we have tons of these corporate courses from bribery, security, which emails to click on, ethics, how to conduct interviews, performance reviews etc... I am pretty sure I have a few outstanding courses I have to take care of on my schedule. I think the type of training you are referring to is what I mentioned earlier about fostering a positive work environment. If applies to races, ethnicity, sex, gender identification etc... BUT all the things in these course is more about appropriate interactions with co-workers. Essentially it is be respectful of others. THESE courses do not teach us how to MANAGE our people's work. That is left to the departments. No one in HR tells me I have to assign work differently to POC. NO one in HR tells me I have to train them how to do their job differently. HR does not tell me I have to mentor POC differently. We treat them the same.

 

First and foremost, this is a 6 year old article that I'm immediately questioning as well as the link and source it leads to. I feel like, just by reading some of the things on there and the comments here, this seems more like what people wanna see or what they think they see and not anything concrete. Now this is actually my first trip to this sub-forum here and its kinda interesting the first post at the top basically starts with "POC are lazier" with no actual, solid irrefutable proof.

Second of all, is there some particular reason any one of us has to pay for the actual study instead of finding a similar study that is easily accessed? Come on now.

 

If you don’t want to read it then don’t. The ultimate fact is the conclusion was POC are less productive. You have an opinion, I have a study… enjoy

 

That conclusion and study are all bullshit to me because they, and by extension you, are claiming this as fact. What's the actual evidence?

 

Culture makes sense. Siesta, anyone? Also less happy employees are less productive, and it would probably suck to be in the minority, to feel less integrated. I am not so sure liberal culture has much to do with it, though. Younger generations, which are more diverse, do want more work-life balance, and when work asks you to do too much, they might push against it by being less productive at work.

 

All good assumptions but I doubt that to be the case. I believe it is the fact that they feel their race is an excuse to be lazy. I’ve seen it in my own line of work where they basically lay down. I’ve seen middle eastern people stop to pray, blacks and Mexicans claim they were being told to do something because they are Hispanic or black. They use that card that the left gives to them.

 

Can you use that same card to tell us what the actual proof is that the study is factual?

 

The study is there for you to read if you choose to

 

Working during work hours is racist.

p.s. give me my reparations.

 

But people have to pay for it. Surely you can find a similar, equally "truthful" one that isn't behind a paywall, right?

 

Actually I can’t. I found the one I posted that is free but it’s obviously an opinion piece

 

So why exactly should anyone pay any attention to this opinion piece again?

 

Because it has links to go to the other article if you choose to.

 

Links that go to another article that very likely don't have any actual factual evidence and also are behind a paywall. Why should anyone waste their time with that?

 

Then you really don’t care about it’s findings so why even post if you don’t care?

 

Because generally, most people should be able to get a link to a study without a paywall. And even with that, the study in question should have some actual concrete proof. I've seen none of that from you or the link I can easily access.

 

I found one easier to access just because you’re being persistent so here’s your winning prize

https://www.nber.org/papers/w23096

 

Finally.

However, let me take the time to reiterate this isn't actual, undeniable evidence that whites are harder working that minorities, it's just a survey, And six years old at that.

 

It’s not a survey, it’s a study that uses a survey for its findings. It’s hardly just a survey. Secondly don’t finally me, you never found it did you? You’re obviously slower to research than me.

 

I didn't bother looking because you should've been able to find something earlier and no one's paying out of pocket for that. And yeah, it basically is a survey. So you just wasted a thread on.....that.

 

I don't know......does this include physical work? I'm seeing Latino roofing / construction crews work from dusk to dawn with only a quick lunch break.