DeSantis administration revokes Hyatt Regency alcohol license for hosting 'A Drag Queen Christmas'

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    The 7-11 closest to my house has had their license to sell cigarettes suspended for half a year because a non-uniformed officer around age 50 bought a pack of cigarettes without them asking to see his I.D.. Th guy was obviously age 50 and not underaged. So, no, they don't need to sell anything to an actual kid, just violate the terms of the license set out by the state and city, and you can lose it. No jury trial needed.
     
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    But again this example is about a non uniformed officer stopping the store from selling cigarettes because they sold cigarettes improperly. The Hyatt example is not the same. They did not sell alcohol improperly. They allegedly committed a misdemeanor of lewdness which would be unrelated to what someone who oversees alcohol should be involved in. That would be like revoking a business alcohol license if they are suspected of tax fraud. A misdemeanor has its own penalties imposed by a judge, why is this agency getting involved? You would need an example of a 7-11 losing their right to sell cigarettes because they sold pornographic magazines that are illegal.
     
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    DeSantis is operating like a quintisential South American Fascist or Marxist dictator.
    It’s all about politics of running for POTUS.
     
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    The regulation is on the books and legally requires liquor license owners not to have "lascivious exhibition" in front of children younger than 16. They signed up agreeing to these rules when they got their liquor license. They were warned that allowing children under 16 to attend an adult sex show violated the terms of the license but chose to do it anyway.

    They broke the terms of their liquor license and now they need to suffer the consequences for their actions.
     
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    That is one of the dumber and more ignorant rants I have seen on this topic. The hotel signed and agreed to follow the rules when it was issued a liquor license. They broke those rules so, of course, they are losing their liquor license.

    Next time they should actually follow the rules they signed on the dotted line and said they were going to follow.
     
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    Somebody show Desantis some old Flip Wilson skits for chrissakes.
     
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    Difference - Hyatt Regency has deep pockets and that means that unless there is definitive evidence of this crime they can argue in court AND get compensation for lost income
     
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    They are welcome to try. I doubt they will be successful as the case is pretty clear. They promised to follow certain rules and regulations in order to get a liquor license. They then knowingly broke those rules even after the liquor board informed them of the consequences of their actions.

    Hard to get out of that one.
     
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    Well let’s hope they have hard evidence children were there without a parent
     
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    The law just says no lascivious exhibitions when people under the age of 16 are present. It doesn't matter if parents are there or not. That is the law, they signed a form saying they agreed to follow those rules, and they didn't. Game, set, match.
     
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    Define “lascivious”
     
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    Use Google if you have difficulty understanding common English words. As for the exact legal definition I am sure there are many Florida state court rulings as it has been on the books for decades.
     
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    No. The Hyatt's violations were not criminal. The remedy was an administrative remedy. What's the big deal? Various agencies all around the country have administrative remedies every day for minor violations.
     
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    Of course if anyone or any organization or business breaks a law it should be punished, that is not the issue. The rub here is that the correct authority to enforce the law is the Liquor commission ( or equivalent) not the governor. It is obvious that if DeSantis was not running for governor we would not have heard a peek out of this case. The other deal is that this was not a case of selling or giving liquor to underaged individuals it is about conducting a lewd performance in the presence of children. Again have the proper authorities in the state that this happens apply the proper law. The governor should not be the one enforcing the law and if DiSantis was not running for governor this case never would be known or the business at fault never would be punished.

    This is a move of phony baloney by DiSantis. I hate phonies from any political party, business, or individual.
     
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    So they are being accused of a crime of lewdness that is a misdemeanor that they are not even being charged with and instead of going through the courts and having a judge impose a fine based on the crime, you think it is better to have another agency be judge, jury and executioner and just choose a financial punishment by taking away their liquor license. What is the point of having crimes like lewdness on the books if once a business is accused of it any agency can step up and impose an unrelated punishment. Should the health inspector be able to shut down the hotel restaurant too for this?

    So would you think if a business is accused of a crime like false advertising, Hyatt refuses to honor a two for one coupon. Do you think it would be fair if someone steps in and removes their liquor license?
     
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    Nonsense. Heterosexual strip clubs lose their alcohol license whenever minors are found to be present. But in your mind LGBTQ doesnt have to play by the same rules, just because they are LGBTQ.
     
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    You keep getting basic facts wrong. It was the authority that first warned this hotel and then took action. All the governor did was insist all regulations he enforced as written. I.E. he did his job as the state executive to make sure all departments actually did their jobs.

    One of the many reasons why he is the best and most successful governor in the country.
     
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    Those rules were written decades ago specifically for strip clubs. So they very much are equally enforced.
     
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    You should read the article. "The Department of Business and Professional Regulation filed a 17-page complaint Tuesday against the show's venue,"
    Regardless, all are a part of the Desantis administration.

    Nonsense. Heterosexual strip clubs lose their alcohol license whenever minors are found to be present. But in your mind LGBTQ doesnt have to play by the same rules, just because they are LGBTQ.
     
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    Nope. They apply to any business that displays such sexually explicit performances. If the Hyatt held a strip performance or a tranny jerking dildos show or a strip club held a strip performance they would all be violating the same law with minors involved. . No "strip club" statute that only applies to strip clubs.
     
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    Many more woke governors would have insisted the regulations not be enforced as written, making an exception for the LGBTQ.
     
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    Is this a case of minors being present? I was told it was because the performance broke the law of lewdness. My impression was the Hyatt rented their faculties for a show that only allow children that is accompanied by an adult. Alcohol was served but not to minors. How is this different than taking a child to a stage show or a sports event where children are present and alcohol is served. If the hotel was serving alcohol to minors I would be in full agreement but it does not seem like the business broke any rules regarding alcohol. I was showed a link to where they were accused of breaking the law of lewdness which is a misdemeanor. That was the reason I was told they were taking away their liquor license, not that they had minors present.
     
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    Then your facts must be sanitized because that is not what I read and heard.
    DeSantis should stay a governor. On foreign policy he made the comment that the Ukraine war is a “border dispute”. He is kissing butt to get Trump’s base and trying to out Trump Trump. I can excuse the hotel case but not his absolute stupidity of joining the low lives like MTG and wanting to abandon Ukraine and Europe.

    You do not seen to care the DeSantis is looking his nose into things such as that hotel case. If he was such a great governor he would have ways to check on state agencies to make sure they are doing what they are supposed to under the law. He only made his sticking his nose into the case as I said earlier because he is running for POTUS. You either do not realize it or you do not care that he is a phony or are just blind to behavior. You do realize that he is behaving like a media whore.

    Again he can stay as governor at least he cannot hurt our country much as governor.
     
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    Did the governor stick his nose in that case also?
     

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