Russia's Medvedev goes on tirade against International Criminal Court, threatens The Hague with miss

I have not see any facts that point to Biden being a war criminal. All that I have seen is unsubstantiated allegations that he is a war criminal.

 

You mean like MAGA

 

What allegations are these ? .. that Biden is a "War Criminal" I know the ICC made such an allegation .. have you substantiated that one ? Just like they making for Russia now .. cept didn't issue no arrest warrents .. for the Biden Obama Team. What are these unsubstantiated allegations are you referring to ? .. other than the substantiated one ..

 

How can any American be against American Greatness???

 

Ridiculous fear. STRATEGIC OIL RESERVES. A war of NATO, with Russia, would not last very long.

Besides, are you seriously taking Medvedev's mention of missiles, as a serious threat of firing one, at the ICC? That is just too ludicrous! Such remarks, are only meant for flinchers.

 

MAGA is not about American greatness is is all about Trump’s quest for power and Trump’s hatred for America. Do you not understand that Trumps loves Russia and it’s autocratic system not America. He wants to be a dictator and destroy our constitutional system of government. He tried to destroy our constitutional peaceful transfer of office of the POTUS. He tried to steal the 2020 election by trying to get election officials or judges to commit fraud and overturn the election. He tried to get Pence to not perform his constitutional duty on Jan 6. He sent his MAGA terrorists to attack our nation’s.Capital. Is attacking our nations Capital and threatening to hang the Vice President of the US your idea of American greatness.

Trump’s MAGA is a perversion and a fraud it is not American Greatness

 

Come on don’t make believe you you suffer from ignorance you know Biden did not commit war crimes. Admit it it is the truth.

 

It would last a very long time because China would get involved

 

China get involved??


Why would China shed a drop of blood for Mafiosi?

 

There are few on this site who share my experiences of WWII. Given a serious enough situation, people can reduce their use of certain commodities dramatically. The United States and Canada together have sufficient oil available in the event of a major war. Folks can also keep cars running for a long time, too. [Ed.: Torus' last car lasted 15 years.]

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

Who is the one suffereing from ignorance here ? Not my fault the ICC tarred the Obama Administration for complicity in war crimes in Yemen .. never mind why these war criminals did in Syria .. or are you completely unaware of what these clowns did in Syria as well ?

 

SIAP.
Not only does Iran and Russia (and KSA) have a corner on the oil market but their other allies in this matter, China, have a corner on the battery market for renewable energy fueled vehicles.

On other words, our enemies would have the wherewithal to fuel their military vehicles in a long battle and we would not.

 

You are ignoring that Russia and the leader of SYRIA committed war crimes in Syria.

 

Trump does not "love russia". That's just silly. Trump love America... Trump built up our military and forced NATO nations to build up too. Trump kept inflation don, gas prices down, crime down, didn't allow any new wars, certainly didn't arm the Taliban like Biden did... and so much more.
Can you specifically name any action Trump took that was autocratic? I'd be interested in hearing it. He never attacked the capitol. it was simply a protest, nothing more. If a disorganized, unarmed bunch of protesters occupying ONE BUILDING for a few hours threatens our government, then we have the weakest government in the history of mankind. Lots of politicians have bee "hung in effigy" .... many... American and foreign. No one gets hurt. Its symbolic only. Gees... take a history course.

 

Trump did not force NATO nations to do anything. They just ignored him and did not increase their spending on military defense until Tump was gone. Trump is the tool that was POTUS when we started the drawdown in Afghanistan. By the time Biden took office the withdrawal was just about over. But you know that and you are just ignoring the truth.

The Trump Capital terrorist mob was indeed looking to hurt Pence and you know it.

 

NATO member contributions to the alliance went up under Trump.
The "deal" Trump brokered ceased to exist before he left office when the Taliban refused to establish the required ceasefire with the Afghani government. Trump was gone from office for six months when Biden's cowardly retreat from Afghan occurred. TRUMP WAS GONE FOR SIX MONTHS.

 

That is a foolish thing, to expect to happen. China has very little skin, in that fight, & no motivation to get into a major war against NATO, for Russia's/Putin's sake. Notice, there are no Chinese troops, reinforcing the Russians, even just against Ukraine.

But I won't waste time arguing reason, with someone who uses none of that, in arriving at his perspective-- I know this from the last time you made a boldly ridiculous statement, & then refused to support it, with any argument. Likewise, here, you somehow think that you can lightly drop such an unorthodox view, with zero explanation of why anyone should consider it anything but a paranoid delusion.

This is a debate forum, isn't it? If I were to say, in answer to your statement about China, "you must not know, that Xi Jinping is actually a robot, controlled by the U.S.," would you expect me to support that statement?

 

Really? You think China would rather see Russia fall to us then have an American installed government right on their boarder? You are crazy if you think China wouldn’t get involved

 

China has the Russian Far East in its sights...it's getting more appetizing as each week passes.

Whomever comes after Putler is immaterial afaic.

 

Russia "fall to us"??? Huh? We won't attack Russia... ever... well... maybe if they vaporize New York....

 

We can beat Russia

 

Well at least you offered a reason, for your belief. However, if it was a war with NATO, coming from this preposterous idea of Russia launching a missile at the Hague, it is a stretch to assume the result would be an "American installed government." Sure, this was the case, in Afghanistan, and long ago, in other countries, such as with Iran's Ayatollah, & so on. Those are not really comparable to Russia. Russians know how to vote. There is no reason that any government would need be "installed." As Russians are patriotic, any such government (put in place by a conquerer, no less) would be doomed to failure.

Further, we would probably have no need to put our fingers on the scale because, after a ruinous war with the West, provoked by Putin, the most obvious leader who would be chosen by a more democratic Russia, would be Alexei Navalny-- who is precisely the type of leader, with a healthy view of the world outside of Russia, who we would want them to choose.

But even assuming you correct-- despite that we really tried to avoid, such interference, when the Soviet Union fell-- just because we hypothetically pushed a leader who was friendly towards the West, would not mean that we "controlled" him, so that the huge nation of Russia, would then be nothing but our puppet Republic. Again, your assumptions do not apparently take into consideration, that they apply to the largest nation on the planet, as opposed to the Caribbean Island of Grenada, or some such. Not at all realistic.

What do you believe that China would think? That we would get Russia to march its army out to Siberia, in order to attack China? Ridiculous. Your mindset is stuck in the past. We have no interest in even trying to conquer China, in a land war-- that would be insane! We didn't want any part of that, even back when their military, & their entire country, was at a much more primitive state, compared to the rest of the world, during the Korean War. You realize that our forces would not go into China, even though Chinese troops were fighting alongside the North Koreans, right? So we were intimidated back then (even with an international force), but now we're not? Come off it-- the whole idea is poppycock.

In fact, considering how much easier it is for China to exploit an open, Western-style system, than a de facto dictatorship, like Putin's Russia, there is a good case that having a democratic neighbor, would be safer for China, than if Russia were being led by a despot.

 

There are no such thing as “contributions to NATO”. The countries that belong to NATO are supposed to maintain a percentage of their GDP spending on their military. There was feet dragging by some NATO countries among them Germany. Now a year after the Russian invasion of Ukraine Germany is now increasing it’s defense spending. Just for the record Trump is not POTUS and has not been since Jan 2021 so we cannot give him credit. Trump does not know or understand the history as to why we needed to form a NATO and his does not know how NATO works. He does not understand why we still need a NATO. Trump had stated that we do not need NATO anymore because he said that the USSR no longer exists. Technically true that the USSR no longer exists but Russia very much replaced the threat of the disbanded USSR.

Trump did run his mouth publicly about having the US leave NATO and openly criticized NATO countries for not increasing defense spending which he stupidly called “contributions”. Putin was watching and listening. Obama who I insider a complete “moron” when it comes to military defense issues actually very quietly got most NATO countries to increase defense spending. True that Germany was a miscreant and did not increase it’s defense until now since Russia started a war in Europe.
I blame two fools for the invasion of Ukraine and obviously for those of us who are aware of what goes on in Europe the two fools are Trump and Obama.
First Obama did nothing when Russia invaded the Crimea and told Ukraine not to “do anything” and that sanctions will punish Russia. Obama did have US military train Ukrainian military which has shown to be very important since the full blown invasion. The fool Obama refused to provide Ukraine with any weapons.

Trump gave the signal to Putin that the US would not respond to Russian aggression even for NATO countries by disparaging NATO and saying that we do not”need NATO anymore. Obviously Ukraine not being a NATO country is not covered by Article 5 but is a member of a group of countries that cooperate and train with NATO. Putin took Trump stupidity and anti NATO mouth farts as a go ahead and plan a future full invasion of Ukraine. Putin watched carefully as Trump tried to blackmail Zalenskyy by withholding a Congressional inspired and approved ( by Congress) weapons package for Ukraine. We known that because the attempted blackmail failed because whistle blowers exposed Trump’s treachery. Putin obviously was watching and patted his dutiful servant Trump on the head and said ‘good try Donaldov thanks now sit until I tell you to bark’.

Putin who tried to help Trump get re-elected figured that Trump who hated Ukraine and Zalenskyy would try all could do to thwart support for Ukraine.
True that the actually invasion occurred in the Biden presidency but Putin figured that Trump had demoralized NATO so much that Biden would do nothing just like Obama. Lucky for Ukraine Congress pushed Biden. It is obvious that the most eastern NATO countries who are the closest to Russia and Ukraine knew that if nothing else but for their own protection they urged support for Ukraine obviously short of Article 5.

Go back and research the Biden approach to dealing with NATO and you will se that they responded to Biden’s quiet approach for them to start increasing defense spending.

Poland and the Baltic countries have always kept their defense spending higher than other NATO countries out of fear of Russia not fear of Trump’s mouth farts.

 

I agree, in a limitd conventional conflict. The Russians are incompetent warriors and have lousy weapons. But in an unlimited nuclear conflict? (And remember, Putin's a NUT... so he just might.)

 

So YOU KNOW what Trump knows and understands? You can read minds? Wow... impressive.
You know what Trump knows and understands about NATO? Have you called the proper authorities about you ability to read minds? It could be mighty helpful in national defense.
Trump never threatened to leave NATO, although he did threaten to lower our deployed force levels if the NATO members "didn't get with the program".
Obama didn't get anything done with NATO. Obama, a leftist, had National defense low on the list of priorities... way below childcare, furlough for new parents, hugging trees and free college for illegals.
Trump sent Javelins to Ukraine, complete with troops to train the Ukrainians in their use.
Trump, like most Americans, didn't/doesn't care about Ukraine.
When Biden ran like a scalded dog from Afghanistan, he emboldened Putin toi invade Ukraine. Putin knew that Biden's response would be minimal. But at least biden is consistent.... from Afghanistan to balloons in US airspace, to the Russians knocking down a Predator and now Syria... Biden is a total coward. Our enemies are having and will continue to have a field day chipping away at us until they finally conquer us completely. If we get a strong person in the White House in 2025, they will attack. America will (probably) never be as weak and vulnerable again. Its an opportunity they cannot pass up.