A New Sheriff In Town Who Has Nothing Against Guns

Australia's murder rate is on the rise. Why isn't it going down significantly?

https://bond.edu.au/news/homicide-on-rise-australia-should-we-be-concerned

 

Common sense laws are ok, but yes, there can be bad laws too

 

It's name is Ocala Star-Banner. Locals call it the Star-Bummer or Star-Banana.

 

Yep.

 

Yup! And free to travel WHERE ever makes you happy.. Why waste time pissed off all the time when a quick flight can provide you peace of mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Something changed and guns don't get an automatic exclusion.

 

Nope, change here.

 

Good luck, I bet your disappointment follows you in to the afterlife

 

In a DEEP RED State like Florida (governed by DeSantis)...
And, a DEEP RED County like Marion (62.4% for Trump in 2020)...
Your guess is as good as mine...

 

And yet here I am still alive after having grown up there and playing with guns all through our childhood. And we even rode dirt bikes and four wheelers and even back in those days three wheelers before the world went soft

 

Australia had one of the most severe lockdowns during the Covid pandemic because citizenry didn't have any guns. Australia's lockdown was, IMO, a close second in most severe to Communist China's lockdown.

And Canada has a socialist tyrant as PM.

In both country's cases, the citizenry has no recourse from government overreach of basic freedoms because they have no guns.

 

He might be black. That takes the quests work out of it.

 

We didn't used to call it that but like I said I left Ocala about 25 years ago.

I was even in that newspaper once my brother and I. We recovered property stolen from our front yard and I guess there wasn't much that was newsworthy in those days because we were featured in the paper.

It is a pretty area with lots of great live oak trees and rolling hills and horse farms. Surrounded by smaller areas like citra, spar, Reddick and Bellevue.

I went back once after I left and that's been probably 15 years ago and it just was not the same.

I grew up about 3 miles down the road from fort King which is where the last Seminole Indian war started. Across the street from where I grew up was a field that was full of Indian artifacts. I don't know whatever came of them but I had plenty of arrowheads I found there as a boy. There was pottery chards galore and flakes of Flint from Flint napping all over the place. It had to have been a pretty long term indian camp. A lot of history there.

I'm glad to see that the sheriff has some common sense

 

Something STILL changed and guns don't get an automatic exclusion.

 

Those guns really helped Japanese/Americans in internment camps didn't they.

 

This will make it simple -- ministers and blacks both own guns so which one shoots each other? Women and men both own guns so which one shoots each other. Truck drivers and gangs both have guns so which one shoots each other? It ain't the gun, it's the people. And lately it's been the queers, loners, and mentally ill, who have shot innocent people. Rather than severely punishing the shooters the liberals make excuses for them while forgetting the victims. Then liberals mistakenly think if they make more gun laws the killings will go down. We have laws against murdering someone -- how's that working out? We need to punish a shooter so severely other potential shooters will think twice before shooting anyone.

 

You may want to ask the sheriff how private gun sales, community guns, ghost guns, and now the new conceal carry without a permit is going to help police enforce those laws which criminals should not have firearms, even teenagers who are below the age of 21?

Yes, there is a plethora of gun laws, but there is no enforcement of said gun laws. Second, many of the advances of "gun rights" make it more difficult for police to do their job, espeically now with no permit to conceal carry. From what I understood, all the teens suspected of killing a person is under the age of 21, which means legally, they cannot own a firearm directly. Indirectly their parents may have access to them, but still cannot own them. Second, none of the teens who are suspected had any felony convictions, which means if they were 21 or older, they would have been legally able to obtain the firearm, and as many as they want, before they did their deed. Whether or not they go through a background check is really not the point if they own the firearm since not all sales go through background checks. Then of course, we could have had straw purchases, but the GOP has gutted that legal recorse so much over the years, it is no longer worth pursuing.

This crime is a perfect example of the logical fallacies the GOP makes with its "gun rights." The easier you give access to legitimate gun owners, the easier access you provide to those who should not have guns, and blurs the lines even further between whether a crime has been committed or not.

 

Mental health and the yearning for purpose and relevance! The younger generation is forlorn, akin to zombie's! They walk thru life with ever diminishing opportunities to make a name for themselves, ever dwindling opportunities to have the type of lives the last generation enjoyed. They are inconsequential, made joke of, and shunned by their peers and fit in nowhere..

All they have is their little handheld device's where they pretend to be something relevant while society leaves them so far behind that it forces them to associate with today's lowest form of misfits!

 

This story probably has a lot to do with what the sheriff was referring to. I would never hit a teacher, just talking back to them using curses would have gotten me in so much trouble with my parents and school that I would regret it for months. Kids don’t do and say the things this kid did if they’re raised in a way that doesn’t promote respect for others and authority.

Houston student punches teacher over cell phone

A Houston teen sucker-punched a teacher in the face after his cellphone was confiscated, video posted to social media shows.
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“By all means, he should not be allowed back on a regular campus,” Capo said. “This is not something that needs to be tolerated. … Unfortunately, we see too much of this. We see too much of this happening toward our teachers and toward our school employees.”

KHOU recently gathered data on reported assaults against school employees in the Houston area’s largest districts.

The stats revealed at least 520 incidents in the 2021-22 school year, which is more than double any of the five previous years, the outlet reported.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/08/caught-on-video-houston-student-punches-teacher-over-cell-phone/

 

It says right in the article that the teens got them by committing car burglaries. What part of the article told you that they had no prior felony convictions? I'm just curious where that information came from.

And the sheriff is right..... Existing laws didn't stop them so making new laws would not have stopped them either.

Why don't we just start by enforcing the law about making it illegal to shoot someone for no good reason? That law didn't get enforced so some new one wouldn't have stopped it either

 

Video blurred to protect the minor What a world we live in

 

But the sheriff was talking about firearms specifically, not the burglaries. That is why three people are dead in what I fear was a carjacking or a robbery that went south. And three teenagers were shot, with three teenage suspects who had a firearm. So, how do you prevent a teenager who has not been convicted even before they committed this act from obtaining a firearm to begin with? You can't, not even with the current laws on the books because pro-gun advocates had blurred the lines so much, the police can't even arrest anyone who is packing even though they may suspect they are a gang member. And if they have not committed any crime, they can under the law.

Second, we do. If someone is shot, it is investigated by police. They obtain videos, if any, witnesses, crime scene evidence, and so forth. Eventually, they will find suspect or suspects, and if enough probable cause is provided, arrest them, and the wheels of justice will start to turn, slowly. But you can't prevent, generally, unless someone sees something, says something, like what happened in Colorado with that potential shooter. Did not happen in Nashville. Did not happen in Sandy Hook. Did not happen in Ulvalde. Did not happen in Parkland. Did not happen in El Paso. And it did not happen in Buffalo.

 

You were making all of these speculations where the guns could have came from but we know where the guns came from.

Where did you get the information that these teens don't have criminal records?

 

It will never happen! There will always be criminals that will import and criminals that will export to the U.S. if the amount of money meets their wants

 

Sir, your replies clearly indicate you did not read the article or watch/listen to the video, or if you did you didn't comprehend what you read or heard. The people who enforce the law have no problem with law-abiding folks owning guns. There is nothing to enforce. Outlaws will always have guns. Just like drug dealers will always have illicit drugs.
The perps got their guns from burglaries.
Two of the perps are teens and one is 12-years-old. The youngest one has admitted, in front of his mother and the law, to shooting one of the victims. What causes a 12-year-old to commit cold blooded murder? It ain't a gun.
What you fear did not take place. There was no car jacking -- the sheriff said all six people were part of a gang.
One of the suspects was already in custody. One was home with his mommy. One is on the lam. But he will be caught.
In this same county back in 1951 a 16-year-old fatally stabbed with an icepick, and shot several times, the sheriff, using the sheriff's own gun. The sheriff was attempting to arrest him for writing a bad check for merchandise. Four years later, in 1955, the murderer was strapped into the electric chair and he paid dearly for his crime. We need to do the same for the three murderers of the three teens.