The fact that, in the entire history of Tennessee's legislature, no one has ever been expelled, before now, for violating floor (speaking & decorum) rules.
"Thugs," really? Actually, I glad you used that word, as it illustrates the appearance of racism, in the story. I have been saying, all along, that we cannot know if racism was involved, but it looks bad. Now your comment, not only looks bad, but is a racist trope-- as there is no reasonable justification, for calling these men "thugs." So, it doesn't seem likely that you, or those who share your perspective, could be convinced that expelling the black Representatives is even a bad look, while you speak in blatantly racist terms which, I am guessing, you won't even acknowledge. In fact, according to a couple other of the respondents, your not admitting it, would prove that it could not have been anything racist.
they may be reinstated, unless Republicans can block it "Majority of Nashville Metro Council to vote to reinstate expelled member" https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...council-to-vote-to-reinstate-expelled-member/
I think they have the option to refuse to seat them, but if they voted to do this, their actual reason-- that they don't care for their opinion on guns-- would be unconstitutional (or has been considered as such, up until now). I don't think that being a floor rule scofflaw, would pass muster, either. Of course, they would probably call it some ridiculous nonsense, like one of the Repubs earlier had said, about them taking part in an insurrection. Integrity is a tough thing to find these days, in Republican politics. P.S.-- It would be interesting, as a guage of the SCOTUS, to see how they would rule, if that is what happened, and the challenge of that reason, then made it to the High Court.
Hi, DEFinning. An old scientist, my mind tends to follow the paths scored deeply into it by my profession. Occam's Razor and the Deep Culture* of the South exert a strong pull. Regards, stay safe 'n well. * Ed.: The reference to 'Deep State' is fully intentional.
they acted like petulant thugs. race had nothing to do with it. I know the woke left throws the race card-they often cannot fathom that people might take issue with disruptive lefties who want to piss all over our constitutional rights--it has to be because the instigators were black.
I don't see it as minor but I'm a believer in discipline and decorum. I think a strong censure would have sufficed.
Were they ever recognized and given an opportunity tis speak? Members of an elected legislature are not allowed to speak over others or speak at will. Legislatures have rules of order that must be obeyed or for as long as they like without restriction.
This would be an outrage if you want to call it that. The two democrats that were expelled had a right to their opinions and protests. I don't see anything wrong with what they did. Guns don't solve problems and never will unless in some circumstances like killing in self-defense. There should no crime for acting in self-defense. Maybe some of the Republicans in the Tennessee State senate and assembly are racist or something like it. It wasn't right to kick those out that are against gun violence and the three thought they did the right thing and I believe there wasn't anything wrong with it. That's all I'm going to say for now. There may be more later>
Being "petulant," does not make one a "thug." Is this actually just a deficiency in your vocabulary? I doubt it-- I am guessing that you chose that word, specifically because you know it is tied to the stereotype of black criminality. But thug implies relying on the use of physical violence. I would give you odds, if you want to wager that either of these men have a criminal record, because I greatly doubt that. So, as neither was being either violent or criminal, your word choice has no legitimate foundation, other than to evoke that stereotype of black gangs. Considering a black man a "thug," just because you don't like his opinion, or his attitude, is part of the substrate from which anti-black racism/white supremacy arises.
OH I call white dudes thugs all the time though my favorite term is MOPE. I find it funny that you are having kittens over this when you and several others constantly heap insults on lawful gun owners. and your pathetic attempt to throw the race card is just that-pathetic,
it does when the argument sucks. then the race card is thrown. It happens all the time-bash Soros beaus you don't like him funding POS prosecutors like bragg or him funding radical gun confiscating groups and you are called "anti semitic"-because the left cannot possibly fathom that anyone could actually be disgusted by woke prosecutors or gun grabbing grifter groups like the Gifford gun banners or other victim disarmament groups that Soros funds. Bash Harris for being an incompetent do nothing idiot-you are called a racist. it gets used so much that the best thing to do is just laugh when the wokeflakes call you a racist or a anti semite
Did you not read the OP, or any of my posts? I have explained this, several times. It is impossible to know, for sure, if their skin color is the reason they were expelled. But it is worth mentioning, because of the appearance of racism, at play. It should be added that this is not the only sign of racism, that's been seen in the Tennessee legislature; there is a history of it. To cite just a couple of examples: until only recently, all entering the State House, had been required to walk past a statue of an early Imperial Wizard, of the KKK. Even more current, one of the Reps has freshly proposed that the State bring back Lynching, as a punishment (after which, he had chuckled). On one hand, one might say, if racism had a part in this, it was only in the cases of a handful of votes, since the white woman received 65 votes for expulsion, whereas the two black men received 69 and 72. Were there other possible reasons to explain the differing results: yes. But is there any basis for the idea, that all Representatives view things, through exactly the same prism: of course not! So, might any of the Reps' votes, have been colored by racist views: this is absolutely a possibility. In fact, though, there is another way to look at it. Namely, is it possible that even the white person's being at risk of expulsion, had come about because of her association with the black men? Again, there is certainly a chance of this. I mean, back in the early days of the civil rights movement, when white people, marching alongside blacks, got struck with the high pressure water hose, directed at the crowd, did that prove that racism played no part in the police reaction? (The answer, obviously, is NO).
Thug is a word blacks embraced, it made them look tough and intimidating. The only time I hear the left complaining about that word is when white people use it, but it’s like that with many words. About ten years ago if you did a search for thug life you got picture after picture, page after page of blacks with guns looking as intimidating as F. Today, the same search reveals nothing, every pic seems to have scrubbed but the label they gave themselves carries on. The republicans in Tennessee have been called racists and white supremacists, labels the left uses to constantly attack those they disagree with. Republicans are also called phobes of various kinds and are even born with privileges based on nothing more than skin tone. There was even a time when republicans were called misogynists, but it now appears that label applies to the left and pretty soon the left will say there’s something wrong with saying it.
unless you can read minds, making accusations against white people because they’re white with no proof is racist. And the reason why only some people were given the boot or why the votes against were different is probably because each person voting had a different perspective of the actions of each individual, and each individual probably acted differently.
What is pathetic, is that, first, you misuse the word "thug,"-- if you, "all the time," call people thugs, who show no signs (to any reasonable person, knowing the meaning of the word) of actually being thugs. It is secondly pathetic, that you either do not realize this is a racial epithet or, worse yet, that you do realize this, but still can't be troubled to find a less offensive word. But you get the Pathetic Gold medal, for thinking that the mere fact that you commonly use the word, makes it no longer racist. Try that with the word "kiike (sic)" and tell me how it goes, when you tell people, who point out to you, this is a slur against Jews, that "I call gentiles Kiikes, all the time." LAME EXCUSE. Part Two: Do you really not understand the difference between an "insult," and a racial epithet, meant to foster stereotypes, held by bigots? That is some sad, sorry-ass ignorance, on your part. Please list the insults you say that I "constantly heap...on lawful gun owners." Or are you going to throw an unsupported allegation at me, and just run away, once again?