Tennessee GOP Expels 2 BLACK Democratic Lawmakers

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  1. Moolk

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    They absolutely were invited in on multiple occasions, it’s on video.
     
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  2. DEFinning

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    Oh, so the he reason you keep misusing that word, is that you do not understand its meaning! One cannot commit "insurrection," against any "act of the legislature." That word applies to an attempt to overthrow the legitimate government, or its leadership. That's all.


    You once again begin with your bogus charge, but you give away that you realize it is false. The punishment for "insurrection," is not merely removal from office, of course. What they'd been removed for, however, was not "insurrection," but for violating a floor rule, and so disrupting the House. And your comment about hoping that they learn about "proper decorum," shows that you absolutely realize that this was the excuse for their removal.

    FYI: breaking decorum, does not qualify as an "insurrection."
     
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    Of course you can lead an insurrection against a act of the legislature, they were protesting against it's authority, and that is how the left defines Jan. 6 along with the obstruction of a judicial proceeding.

    So why do you support in here but not there?
     
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    She should be censored for her insult of her fellow legislators.
     
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    Who has been charged with trying to over throw the government? Had they succeeded in this plan exactly how would they have taken over the government?
     
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    Not to riot and disrupt and engage in insurrection inside the building.
     
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    It was a big crowd so who knows if they all heard. And I’m sure they technically knew they weren’t allowed in, but it was just a line of people calmly walking through. To even insinuate those people were trying to take over the govt, then so were these 2. You’re just implanting motive so why can’t we all make up what people were thinking?
     
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    Invited to interfere with the proceedings?
     
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    Insurrection does not require overthrowing the government as we saw Jan 6 if that is claimed to be an insurrection. Leading such an insurrection on the legislative floor warrants the expelling. We'll see if they learned their lesson in civility.
     
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    There was not even the attempt to overthrow the government-- the Right's attempts to equate these two things are pathetic, in their ludicrousness. Your post does not address the thread's main point: namely, that it is an abuse of power, to expel any of the citizens' Representatives, based on a violation of decorum. That is what a "censure," at worst, is for.
     
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    As no one has been charged with insurrection for Jan 6, but have been charged and convicted with seditious conspiracy to interrupt proceedings, that would fit here. If you’re going to continue to call Jan 6 an insurrection, you’re really going to have to get used to this being called that as well. There does not have to be an election to overturn to be charged with seditious conspiracy to interrupt proceedings.

    Who knows, maybe all three didn’t get together and plan their doing what they did.

    I think the punishment is too harsh in this specific case. I also don’t think they will be charged with seditious conspiracy either.
     
  12. DEFinning

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    BREAKING NEWS:

    Representative Justin Jones' town Council is now holding a meeting to send a replacement, for their expelled Representative. The only person that has been nominated, is Justin Jones. Momentarily, they will vote to send him, as his own replacement.
    The question, of course, is will the State House seat him.

    Vote total: ayes- 36; nays- 0.
     
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    The latest Republican gotcha move backfiring bigly.


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    WOW. Rep. Justin Jones is leading a march with thousands of people back to the Tennessee Capitol building right now. This is what democracy & a movement look like. Republicans messed around & they’re about to find out. Sweet, poetic Justice.



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    Also worth remembering that Justin Jones is 27. He’s one of the youngest members of the Tennessee State Legislature & he is now leading thousands of people back to the TN State Capitol. Breathtaking & a reminder NEVER to mess with young people.
    6:02 PM · Apr 10, 2023
     
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    Nope, why would they?

    What is seditious conspiracy? Rare, but now part of Jan. 6
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    AP News
    https://apnews.com › article › riots-conspiracy-9d22bd...

    Jan 13, 2022 — Seditious conspiracy occurs when two or more people in the U.S. conspire to “overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force” the U.S. government, or bring war against it, or that they plotted to use force to oppose the authority of the government or to block the execution of a law."
     
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    And ... ?
    If Republicans had any honesty, then they would apply their "decorum" to these two.
    But we know that's not going to happen.

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    No Bull Horns.
    They didn't shut down a legislative session, they didn't even shut down a speech.
    They simply responded to an invited guest who lied about them.

    Weird how so too many Leftists want to be able to lie about others and then forbid a response. Seems rather cowardly, but, that's quite common among authoritarians, so while not worthy of respect, not all that surprising.
     
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    Pearson also returned to Tennessee House.

    https://www.npr.org/2023/04/12/1169444850/justin-pearson-vote-memphis-tennessee-house

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    MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Less than a week after being expelled, the Shelby County Board of Commissioners has reappointed Justin J. Pearson to his seat representing Tennessee House District 86.
    ...

    Expulsions put a spotlight on race in Tennessee

    Pearson's reinstatement is the latest twist in a political battle that ignited accusations of racism and toxic partisanship: Republican House members, largely white and male, employed a disciplinary tool little used since the 1800s to expel Pearson and another Black Democrat, Rep. Justin Jones, while sparing Rep. Gloria Johnson, who is white.

    The Republican supermajority voted to punish Pearson and Jones, of Nashville, after they — alongside Johnson of Knoxville — broke procedural rules to lead a protest from the House floor calling for gun law reforms.

    When asked about the differing outcomes, Johnson replied, "It might have to do with the color of our skin."
    <End>


    Amazingly, 2 black lawmakers who'd led an "insurrection," have been sent back by their respective county's officials, and have been accepted back, on an interim basis, by House they'd tried to "overthrow," until after the special elections for their seats. Man, those Tennessee legislators are forgiving <sarcasm>.
     
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    There’s more to the actual law, and the wording is different in the law than what you quoted. That’s a basic gist, but not the exact wording. We had people charged with that for Jan 6, and it wasn’t the overthrowing the government part.
     
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    No Justins, no peace:
     
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    It's my understanding that the two men used a bull horn. The woman did not.
     
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    The corruption will not end because both parties benefit.

    Secret ethic committee findings.
    Secret slush funds to pay off secret victims with NDAs.
    Campbell is one sick bastard.



    Update:TN lawmaker who sexually harassed teen interns resigns 6 hrs. after story breaks!

    This, after he initially said it didn't happen and the accusers were lying!

    The update:

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/n...ee-found-guilty-of-sexually-harassing-interns

    "A member of GOP leadership in the Tennessee House of Representatives was recently found guilty of sexually harassing at least one legislative intern, likely two, by an ethics subcommittee acting in secret, NewsChannel 5 Investigates has learned.

    About six hours after being confronted by NewsChannel 5 Investigates, Rep. Scotty Campbell gave up his seat in the Tennessee General Assembly.

    Campbell, who served as vice chair of the House Republican Caucus and who recently voted to expel three Democrats who engaged in a gun violence protest on the House floor, had suffered no previous consequences as a result of his actions.

    Despite accusations of sometimes extremely vulgar comments and other inappropriate advances, Republicans did not remove the 39-year-old East Tennessee lawmaker from his leadership position nor from his committee assignments.

    But taxpayers are paying for his actions.

    NewsChannel 5 has learned that potentially thousands of dollars have been spent to protect one victim, relocating her from the downtown apartment building where she and Campbell both had apartments, shipping her furniture back home in another part of the state and placing her in a downtown hotel for the remainder of her internship."....(more)
     
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    And Nancy Pelosi ON CAMERA, ripping up Trumps speech is sooooooooo mature=) Give me a break. Democrats started all this garbage and are the WORST offenders by far. Accusing the president of being a Russian spy...it doesn't get any worse than that. POT meet kettle phonies., hehe.
     
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    Neither does peacefully walking through the capital and taking selfies. Those morons interrupted and delayed a govt process, just like those 2 idiots did, leading a mob into the capital. At any moment that mob could have taken people prisoners, forced the state govt to act or ELSE....who would know at the time? Looked like an insurrection, until it wasn't.
     
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