‘Buckle up': DeSantis escalates Disney dispute, eyes hotel taxes and road tolls

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  1. 19Crib

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    He is going the same crap our guv Newsom is doing. Across the spectrum, government thuggery is not a winner.
    Sit down and work it out.
     
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    The IRS doesn’t appear to have apologized to liberals as they were not the ones screaming conspiracy while melting all over the place.

    As to educating you on another fact that you didn’t know, gladly

    Audit indicates liberal nonprofits also got extra IRS scrutiny

    How is saying that no one should be targeted because of their speech “hypocrisy”?


    This has gone from sad to amusing to now just being childishly pathetic[/QUOTE]
     
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    This is why nobody listens to the outcry's of the left anymore.
    They are always filled with their exaggerations and fake agendas.

    The new law would prohibit lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity from grades 4 to 12, unless required by existing state standards or as part of reproductive health instruction that students can choose not to take.

    The initial law bans exposing 3rd grade and below, information about trans and gay sexuality issues without the consent of their parents.
    Next
     
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    DeSantis plans to make it cost more for families to visit Disneyland
     
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    Literally the same thing except “unless required by existing state standards or as part of reproductive health instruction that students can choose not to take.”

    How fascinating that you are really trying to assert they don’t do the same thing except with teaching about reproduction.

    Sad really
     
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    If it was a conspiracy, why did the IRS apologize for it again?

    And yet another fake cry from the left.
    Tell us, how many of these non melting non conspiracy leftist organizations were refused their 501C status over targeting again?
    As per usual, these leftist claims fall flat on their faces.

    Because you single out one instance for your own political narrative. Thats how.
    You never cry over conservatives free speech, just the ones you want to push because it seems to fit your momentary outrage.

    Maybe you shouldn't get caught in making accusations you can't support.
    Just a thought
     
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    Newsome just announced they will no longer contract with Walgreens, ron is threatening to implement special taxes and construct tolls.

    Both are wrong but one is much more extreme
     
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    meaning, if there was a bulling problem against students because they were lgbtq or their parents were, the school could not address it
     
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    most people did not give their non-profits political names, these non-profits were not supposed to be political or they did not qualify, so giving them a name that was political of course got them extra scrutiny (to make sure they were not political)
     
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    Whats sad is the left trying to blur lines for (again) their momentary fake outrage.

    There are no public classes on gender identity in grades 4-12. You didn't get your feathers all fluffed until DeSantis and Democrats in Florida decided there isn't going to be one.
    So what party do you belong too since you think Democrats in Florida legislation voting to protect school children from these woke idealist is so inappropriate?
     
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    Everything has been supported, you just don’t like it — and the only people screaming about their side being targeted but cheering the other side being targeted is you guys.

    The liberals here have denounced all of it.
     
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    You seem to be running again.
    Why is it you can't tell us how many of these non melting non conspiracy leftist organizations were refused their 501C status over IRS targeting.

    Seems if you actually believed what you posted, you would have no problem in providing this information instead of running from it.
     
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    You have already admitted these bills are mostly to just prevent homosexual representation so let’s try and stay on the OP topic of ron and Disney and not try to backtrack on your prior comments, think you are capable?
     
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    It’s irrelevant, it has been proven both liberal and conservative organizations were targeted, liberals have denounced both while you are upset over it yet cheering this OP.

    If you want to discuss the IRS start a new thread.

    It’s laughable you are complaining about others not answering something (even though multiple sources have been given) as you have dodged questions for dozens of pages across numerous threads.
     
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    Nope.

    But tells you very little about the VALUE of a company.

    For example Theranos at one point had a 10 BILLION dollar Market Cap. But it's actual valuation was zero because it's founder had conned people into thinking she had developed a ground breaking technology.
    Now this is, of course, an extreme example based on lies...but it still shows the difference between Market Cap and Valuation.
     
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    He isn't calling for the same treatment. He's trying to reneg on an existing agreement for partisan political reasons, specifically, because Disney won't go along with
    his political agenda. After Disney insulated themselves from his retaliation, he is now proposing "tolls" and other fees to punish them for insulating themselves from his petty temper tantrum.

    Section 10.

    PS - Your concern for the "People of Florida" is most moving. How about all the "People of Florida" who didn't vote for a petty tyrant and/or agree with Disney ?
    Don't they count ?
     
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    Right, because we don't want to discuss why DeSantis and Florida Democrats stopped Disney from trying to repeal a law (that has nothing to do with Disney in the first place) just because of their woke ideology.
    We just want to narrow the focus to one thing that suits your narrative.
    You can't have an honest conversation only about DeSantis going after Disneys reedy creek exemption without why DeSantis is going after their exemption.

    Just curious, I haven't seen any post from you about Disney reversing course on their battle cry to repeal the Florida law or why they did reverse course.

    Its MORE than obvious from every post you have made that you don't want to Discuss Disneys swopping sides over this law because of the media fallout.
    You don't want to discuss the more than obvious fallout Disney has endured over their decision to single handedly repeal Florida laws that had nothing to do with Disney in the first place, showing this came from their own political wokeness.
    You don't want to discuss why every Democrat voter in Florida legislation fought against Disney and voted for the law.

    All you do want to do is isolate one feature so you can push this freedom of speech claim.

    Well, it doesn't work that way. And if Disney thought it was a free speech issue, they would have been screaming it from day one. But they didn't because they knew better.
    Its only in the last few weeks that Disney magically decided it was a free speech issue because they have nothing else to fall back on.

    So, no, you don't get to isolate only one portion of the on going fight just to host your outrage.
     
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    I never argued anything about market cap vs valuation.
    All I stated was the stock price tells you what the company value is.
    Its been that way since the beginning of time and will continue.
    And just because you find some example of how company (X) had the wrong evaluation into the mix, thats not how stock purchases look at stock.
    When trying to determine a public company value, Market capitalization is one of the simplest measures of a publicly traded company's value.
    It’s calculated by multiplying the total number of shares by the current share price.
    Always has been
    Always will be
     
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    Perhaps the better question is what would Ronald Reagan think of a woke company attacking the innocence of little kids...
     
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    When did that happen ? Or did you just make that up ?
     
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    Really, by who? You?
    So now you providing information to back up your claim, is now somehow irrelevant.
    Hilarious
    How convenient for you.
    So heres a little diddy for you.
    At no time were any Liberal organizations refused their 501 C status during the IRS targeting scam.
    At no time did any Liberal organization claim they were refused their 501 C status during the IRS targeting scam
    At no time did the IRS claim any Liberal organization was refused their 501 C status during the IRS targeting scam


    So please, educate us all?
    What were these liberal organizations targeted for and how did the IRS (in any way) hinder these liberal organizations?

    Bet you won't answer that. Will you.
    GUARANTEED
     
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    Have you seen a Disney movie in the last decade?
     
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    No answer ? So you just made it up.

    Got it.
     
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    You seem to have a problem accusing everyone of running from your questions?
    But its apparent what your really accusing everyone of is not giving you the answer you want.
    So the only one running would be you by not addressing the actual post, because you don't like the answers.

    And as much as you would like to make this about one news story, it isn't.
    But you pushing to make it about one news story clearly indicates you can't dispute the whole story.
     
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    So you thought a question about what would Ronald Reagan think of a woke company attacking the innocence of little kids means this happened while Reagan was president?
    Just wow
     

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