Part 39 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Nwolfe35

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    That is the big one a lot of people miss. CLOSED systems increase in entropy...tending to go from order to disorder. As you point out we are not a closed system. The solar system isn't even a truly closed system..but it's still increasing in entropy. Eventually the sun will cease to produce power and the "closed" system of the solar system will fall apart. But as long as the sun continues to fuse hydrogen into heavier elements and produce energy we, here on earth, are not a closed system.
     
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    Humans are "gods." We each have the powers of creation and destruction. We know the difference between good and evil and we can do either one whenever we want to.

    John 10:34 (CEB) = "Jesus replied, “Isn’t it written in your Law, I have said, you are gods?"
     
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    "Again, I repeat myself, God does not change His mind. He has not changed His divine plan; you could say it's going along as planned."

    You should really read the fairytale for yourself=

    Psalm 106:45 (CEB) = "God remembered his covenant for their sake, and because of how much faithful love he has, God changed his mind."
     
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    I've been reading your posts and see a fatal flaw in your logic.

    You deny evolution, which is a proven scientific fact. But you egerly embrace a religion cooked up by a sexual predator so that he could get a harem of women to screw and get rich off of other preverts who wanted to do the same thing. You accept as fact that the conman found some golden tablets that he was able to decipher with his magic glasses. And you think that you will become a god with your own planet and harem in the afterlife. IMO, you could improve your mental health by discarding the conman's fairytale and start living in reality. Give it some serious thought.
     
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    Obviously, you're not quite understanding this passage in Scripture. God will destroy the wicked, the unbelievers but not the saved Christians. And so, the wicked will be punished and the righteous will be vindicated on the day of judgment.

    Le me present a video presentation for you that's from my favorite Christian Ministry. They will give you a Summary of the Book of Zephaniah and explain thoroughly what this prophetic Book of Zephaniah is all about.



    Ok thanks Gawd for your post. I hope you understand now what the Book of Zephaniah is all about.
     
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    I have previously said that God sent his spirit to me to know me, to fill my heart and body with the milk and honey of peace, and my mind with light and a vision regarding a question I had asked, believing. In so doing, he awakened me to a remembrance of him, that he is real, that he lives and is divine. I recognized and remembered his Spirit like remembering your Parents voice. Only he was in me rather than to my eyes or ears by hearing or reading.

    You said: "The FACT" is that God doesn't speak to you .. and never sat down with you for Tea."

    So I quoted the Apostle John on the topic for your consideration:(The spirit sayeth) "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

    So God, by his charity, sent his spirit to me and we supped. Or I should say that God brought the provisions, from which I was the beneficiary. This is the truth. God lives. And you know him. But you have forgotten him. As has everyone, including myself up until the day he visited me and restored my heart, and showed me that life is in him rather than in myself or in my life alone. God is not of this world.
     
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    According to Jesus as quoted by Matthew in Matthew 25:31 to end, believers in him can DEFINITELY find themselves next to Satan in hell.

    Surely this is the most ignored teaching of Jesus.

    It's ignored more than his rebuke of xenophobia, his rebuke of the money changers, his rebuke of those who would deny help needed by the harlot, etc.

    Also, Jesus pretty solidly ended the notion of "once saved, always saved."
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
    Mitt -- you just getting it all wrong -- these claims about God -- as if God sat down with you for Tea -- claims that do not jive with Scripture .. and further you can not tell us the name of this God you have tea with regular basis -- at your beckon call to answer tough questions?

    You said God was never wrong - never make a mistake -- but, God Made YOU Mitt - and we are told in Gen 6 that he deeply regretted that mistake .. the human heart .. only wicked .. all of the time . hopeless in God's eyes..

    Who is this God Mitt - Which God in the Bible as there are so many .. Gods - Sons of Gods -- and we made in "their" image .. not His image. Is it the God with of the Temple .. with the male prostitutes ? .. or how about one of them Child Sacrifice Gods ..

    What is the name of this God .. do not try and Cancel this God out Mitt .. as if we do not know which God you worship .. how can we be worshipers of this God.. Let your light Shine Brother Mitt .. do not hide it under the bed .. keep it in the closet .. how can you evangelize .. if you can't tell folks the Name of your God .. they won't know who to worship ?? sounds more like something those prophets of deception over at "Got Questions" would come up with .. unable to answer the most basic and number 1 question ?

    The Wolves in Sheeps clothing Mitt - hiding their God in the Closet - afraid to tell others who it is they worship. I want to believe Mitt .. but, have to know which God you want me to believe in. Is it the God of Abraham Mitt - is that who we are praying to when we say "Our Father -- Who Art in Heaven - Hallowed be thy Name"

    That Guy - Mitt - The God Jesus told us to pray to .. what is His name ?
     
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    Wow, how did I miss all of that in my internet searches for truth.
     
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    You said: "The FACT" is that God doesn't speak to you .. and never sat down with you for Tea."

    Thats right Brother IJ - you are not the Logos - Emissary between God and Man .. aka "the word" which you continually try to usurp but that is another issue.

    If indeed you have God on speed dial .. then agree to ask God to answer a few simple questions for US .. It is not complicated .. either ya can . or you can not. Simple Simon - met a Pie Mon.

    but if not .. the Quit Speaking for God -- as that is blasphemy of the highest order .. Mon Senior .. aka "Awfull Horror" akd "unforgivable Sin" aka "Abomination of Desolation"

    bad stuff .. .. So .. Once again -- "You do not speak for the Most High" - You are not "Pontifex Maximus" -- and not even the Popes claim that Title anymore .. although they did once wear that blasphemy Proudly ..

    Did I tell you I did sit down with the most high once Injeun !? .. didn't give me his cell number though like you .. pretty special .. yeah mon .. look forward to getting some questions answered .. hearing some more of your prophetic words ..

    The name first though ...and you don't even have to ask God to answer this one .. as you should already know .. what is the name of this God you have on speed dial ?
     
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    "The Truth" --- is that life is hard and Dangerous .. "Old Viking Credo" :)
     
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    Seeing that those are all of your own proclamations, why not ask yourself for the answers?
     
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    Those are your proclamations .. you are the one claims to speak for God mate .. you do this all the time .. suppland man made dogma for the teachings of the Logos .... That is speaking for God mate .. claiming John is your witness .. YUP .. speaking for God.. "God is this" - "God is that" Speaking for God.

    Is this what God told you mate ? .. when you sat down for Tea .. came all the way down to earth .. just to tell you that I have forgetten God .. and also that God is not of this world ?

    but God was of this World previously right ? -- when Jesus lived here -- When YHWH lived here --- So God was telling you he was not currently of this world .. not that he was never of this world right ? but why would he tell you this ?

    and was God pissed that I had forgotten him ? ..

    Oh .. and what was this God's name .. the one that you "supped with"
     
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    A person suffering from delusions might say the same thing about Elvis. "Yep, Elvis came by and we ate some fried chicken together. He sat right there in that chair right there!"

    How do we know that your encounter with God is not just a delusion?

    How do YOU know it's not just a delusion?
     
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    I say what the Prophets, Jesus Christ, and his Apostles have said. I think I am in good company. And I don't say it in parroting, but rather knowing of myself by Gods spirit, before ever having read their testimonies. So the past is in keeping with what I know this day.

    I was born and raised in a non religious home. Life, family, hunting, fishing, camping and outdoor pursuits were my religion or the all of my existence Why would I put that away and say that my life is in Jesus Christ, and bring the derision heaped on him and his servants on myself. I love him because he knew me, loved me, and didn't condemn me. Instead, by the excellence and divinity of his spirit, I am inclined and persuaded to adjust my behavior to his liking. Have you never looked up to someone and wanted to be like them, whether near or far?

    As for delusions, I am more certain that God lives than I am of anything in life. In this respect, excellence is in God, and the world is a delusion. Look around at the madness, chaos, etc. And tell me that were the world a man, he is not insane jumping from kind to vicious, from sound to unsound, from one train of thought to a different other, babbling in different tongues, from fury to demure, unsettled and without peace.

    Now you might say, well, the world isn't one man. It is billions of different people, each living their own lives. And that it is the spice of life, and that the world is to be loved. It is written that God loved the world so much, that he gave his only begotten Son. And that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
     
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    It sounds to me like you think that God should be nothing more than an image, someone to read, hear, and know about, but not actually know. Have you ever gone fishing and actually caught a fish? How is it blasphemy for me to tell the truth. Do you think that you are God, that what I say offends you because it is not in alignment with your own assumptions? I make no assumptions. I merely relay the truth. Think what you will. My Gods name is God of my Fathers and of my life.
     
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    You make assumptions. You assume, against all evidence, that the BOM and your beliefs, are true, that your 'experience' was actually 'god/Holy Spirit' speaking to you. It can only be an assumption because it goes against the 'experiences' of many others with different views who are confident THEIR experience was true. You simply relay what is, to you, the truth.
     
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    Well, in the end it is up to you to determine for yourself.
     
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    This is just one of the foundations of America's commitment to religious pluralism.

    It was considered important enough to be stated in our constitution that government doesn't get to be involved.

    Yet, today we have citizens who think it is right to have government select a religion to teach our children!!!
     
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    I don't see that happening. But there are private religious schools.
     
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    To you it's a fairytale now but there will be a day for you and all other unbelievers when you're finally going to realize it wasn't a fairytale after all.

    You haven't learned anything Gawd for I've told you thousands of times in the past you can't take a single verse out of context in Scripture and expect to interpret it correctly because for the most part you will misinterpret it as you've done here.

    You take one verse from one Bible the CEB where it says, "God changed his mind" and bingo you think you have hit a lottery jack pot or something...lol and btw your brother the not so gifted one is also in the same boat as you...lol

    What you fail time after time is to interpret Scripture correctly. Let me provide you with an explanation of verses 44-46 of Psalm 106 below, if you want to read the entire article click on the link below, I've provided. I highly recommend that you do that. Let's not forget eternity is an awfully long time to be wrong in your belief system and so unbelievers such as yourself need to do as much reading possible to understand the implications/consequences of denying the Creator Almighty God. But first let me put up verses 44-46 of Psalm 106 from the CEB Bible it will be easier to understand the commentary while looking at verses 44-46.

    And mind you, most Bibles use the word "relented" in verse 45, like the NLT below:

    45 He remembered his covenant with them and relented because of his unfailing love. Psalm 106:45 NLT

    We Read in Scripture:

    44 But God saw their distress
    when he heard their loud cries.
    45 God remembered his covenant for their sake,
    and because of how much faithful love he has,
    God changed his mind.
    46 God allowed them to receive compassion
    from all their captors. Psalm 106:44-46 CEB

    Ok thanks Gawd for your post it was a pleasure for me to respond to it and hopefully my response cleared up a misinterpretation you had. The bottom line is that Almighty God the Creator does not change His mind and furthermore He is a merciful, compassionate God that forgives.
     
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    My instincts tell me that the evolution of man from animals is untrue. My conscience, intellect, and spirit tell me that the evolution of man from animals is untrue. In the entire history of man there is no evolution of animals into men. Just humans begetting humans. Even today, there are no animals becoming human anywhere. But evolutionists and Atheists insist that it is true.

    If Atheism is true, Christians have nothing to worry about. If Christianity is true, Atheists have everything to worry about.
     
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    Bit of a hypocrite here Mitt. Christianity does it regularly.
     
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    That's because you do not understand evolution. If you did you would know why this comment is wrong on every possible level.

    As far as "If Atheism is true...." that's called "Pascal's Wager" and was first introduced in 1670 in book by philosopher Blaise Pascal. It has been debunked as worthless as an argument for the existence of a god. At best, it is an argument for acting as though one BELIEVES in a God but even that fails any kind of scrutiny.
     
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