Federal judge rules handgun laws violate Second Amendment

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    LINK: Federal judge rules handgun laws violate Second Amendment (msn.com)

    Welp, so much for gun grabbers attempt to ban adults from owning guns.
     
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    Up next, 13-17 year olds being able to buy guns

    Meanwhile the number of shootings continue to place the US closer to that of third world nations than our peers
     
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    Why wait that long
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...facturer-unveils-AR-15-KIDS-called-JR-15.html

    Forget about arming the teachers just arm the kids

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  4. The Mello Guy

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    Another unconstitutional trump idea. He’s lucky the people in his party don’t have any principles.
     
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    Who are you responding to? What are you talking about?
     
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    Exactly. This Judge did not think it through much.

    The right to bear arms does not vest on sanity or mental stability either....roight?
     
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    Time to repeal 2A. It should have happened a century ago.
    It won’t be repealed, but it should.
    And no, it wouldn’t result in “gun grabbing”. There are lots of countries with a healthy hunting culture and wide gun ownership without a 2A equivalent.
     
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    Pants and balancing act like this.
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    There's a process to do that. 3/4 of the state legislatures must agree... have fun. Fat chance. Americans love freedom... you don't. But its your right to TRY to stifle freedom.
     
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    i hate to break it to you, but the us has no peers. our political class is possibly the most corrupt among first world nations. we are far and away the most diverse nation on earth. our global influence is greater than even the colonial nations at the height of their empires. we are the ultimate destination for most of the world's poor. i know i've missed quite a few things, but add all of this to the fact that this nation was built on the premise that the individual, not the collective, must be the ultimate arbiter of justice and truth and i doubt you'll find another nation anywhere with as many handicaps and as many accomplishments.

    meanwhile, the usual suspects want to harp on things like the illusion of security, their own fears and insecurities, and the all too human foibles of our fore-bearers. if y'all really cared about gun deaths you would take a look at the statistics, all the statistics, and recognize that it isn't the guns but certain segments of our society that choose violence over rational thought.
     
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    I saïd it wouldn’t happen. I know it won’t happen. There are too many Americans who support the freedom to engage in mass shootings and school shootings to let it happen.
     
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    I’m commenting on the op and talking about this:
    "I'm going to give it a lot of consideration," Trump said. "People aren't bringing it up because they're afraid to bring it up. You can't buy a handgun at 18, 19 or 20. You have to wait until you're 21. You could buy the weapon used in this horrible shooting at 18. You are going to decide - the people in this room pretty much - are going to decide. I would give very serious thought to it."
     
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    that's ridiculous unless you think 17 year olds are voting, subject to the draft etc.

    they are not so it is a silly analogy
     
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    there is no AR 15 assault rifle. children cannot buy these firearms. they are designed to be bought by adults to teach children safe gun handling and marksmanship skills. How many kids who are taught those things end up being criminals? I bet less than one percent
     
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    No one sees mass shootings as a "right". No one supports such acts. People support the right to keep and bear arms. People support freedom. Saying that such a position supports mass shootings is like saying folks that support the ability to get a driver's license support hit and run incidents. Its kinda silly.
     
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    how is it unconstitutional to say people who can vote should be treated like adults in other areas

    educate me what constitutional provision this violates. take into account incorporation of the second (you can look that up if you don't understand the concept) through the fourteenth
     
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    why do gun banners make comments that are so patently silly. no one supports a freedom to engage in mass shootings. You know that, I know that, so why say something that inane?
     
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    It’s no different than saying Democrats support open borders.

    2A supporters want unlimited or virtually unlimited access to firearms. That has undoubtedly had the effect of making it easier to engage in mass shootings. So although you may say you don’t support mass shootings per se, 2A supporters agree with the policies that let them occur.

    So yeah, it’s perfectly legitimate to say that 2A supporters are pro-mass shooting. In the same way Democrats are accused of supporting open borders.
     
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    so much wrong in so few words. the only people who want mass shootings are the people who use those shootings to advance their political agenda. GUN BANNERS. And yes many Democrats support open borders. Find a single pro gun advocate who supports mass shootings. And thanks for admitting you were not being truthful.
     
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    I have unfettered access to firearms and neither I nor my firearms have harmed anyone. Your assumption is false. Shootings that harm people have nothing at all to do with me. I bet you eat with a knife. So does that mean you support stabbings?
    I am in favor of enforcing current gun laws. Democrats refuse to support existing immigration laws. Again, your reasoning is faulty.
     
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    because their entire premise is silly. though many gun deaths are the act of those with illegally owned guns (i would like to say "most", but i'm simply too lazy to see if any study has ever been done on this), they seem to think that more laws are the answer. though most 2nd amendment supporters are all for sensible gun regulation, they constantly claim that such people support a firearm free for all. though they are all for allowing 18-20 year olds, some of the most gullible people on earth, the power to effect our politics, they seem to think that these same people are incapable of responsibly owning a handgun. i feel i'm being polite by calling such stances "silly".
     
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    well when the motivation of most gun banners is banning legal guns, when they try to argue from a crime control angle-they come off as dishonest to disingenuous
     
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    it seems you too are being overly polite.
     
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    first time for everything

    BBL
     
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    Well 13-17 year olds arent adults, so not sure what ur basing this on...
     
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    And do you support them having easy ready access to weapons of civilian massacre?
     

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