100k preventable deaths a year

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  1. independentthinker

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    Good point. It's not about deaths to the left. It is about agenda.
     
  2. Sirius Black

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    Dead is dead. Allowing crazy people access to guns that can kill multiple people in a school exaserbates the problem.
     
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    Just because it has been coming in through one location is no excuse to let it come in from anothe4r.
     
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    Explain how me giving up my guns will prevent a school shooting.
     
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    Guns aren't about importing future votes across the southern border like fentanyl is.
     
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    Ha...seems there might be some people who have the answer to stopping the flow of illegal drugs into the US. No one has been able to do it for many many decades but somehow someone on this forum might have the answer? If there is a person who has the answer please step forward and inform us all of this plan.
     
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  7. Sirius Black

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    Are you a crazy person?
    If not explain to me why you think I want your guns.
    If not explain why background checks are wrong.
    If not make some suggestions what we can do together to help reduce gun deaths.
     
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    People die from drug overdoses because of voter fraud. (Illegals can't vote)
     
  9. kriman

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    Are you a crazy person. If not, then explain why I have anything to do with school shootings.
     
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    Was that a tacit admission your accusation that Dems don't care about the fentanyl problem was wrong?
     
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    For all intents and purposes, methadone is legal because it is very easy to get a prescription for it. There does not seem to currently be a lot of clamoring for the drug amongst Heroin/Opioid addicts except for those trying to quit.

    Why do you think that it being legalized would make the illegal drug trade go away?
     
  12. Cybred

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    Republicans are the ones that started it, beginning with Nixon.
     
  13. Sirius Black

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    My point was that you are not a crazy person and should be willing to consider things that might reduce the chances of such things occuring. By choosing to ignore a problem we don't solve it. You should be willing to discuss it and add something to the discussion.
     
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    While banning guns and using shootings for political gain is not something I agree with, I am far more concerned with gun deaths than I am with drug addicts and stupid people voluntarily taking drugs and killing themselves. We've had alcoholics drinking themselves to death for centuries. Drug addicts dying from overdoses is no different.
     
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    Drug use is one issue both parties get wrong. One side wants to put drug users in prison and the other is handing out crack pipes and needles. Lets not pretend dems controlled cities have the drug problem figured out.
     
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    That's because their goal isn't to save lives, but to disarm Americans. This places them in league with the murderers in a sense. On the one hand they murder us. Then on the other hand they call us to surrender our guns and the killing will stop, they say. For the most part, these are the same people who promote the breakdown of the family and society which is turning out these fatherless predators who are committing most of the violence. Liberal DNA is all over it.
     
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  17. FatBack

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    It is imperative that Americans never surrender their guns..... No matter how much liberals demanded or how much progressives from other countries try to demand it of us.
     
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    In fairness, what should be done?
    The war on drugs going back 40 yrs hasn't worked.
    The prohibition on alcohol the USA had didn't work either.

    So, what should be done? People are going to use drugs of all kinds. No laws can stop that.
     
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    A recent report from the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) said that drug overdoses kill more people in the US than car accidents or guns. Some deaths are through prescription drugs, others by cocaine or, increasingly, heroin.

    Many of these drugs are smuggled in large volumes by drug cartels from the fields of South America past the thousands of patrol officers who guard the US border.

    Four experts spoke to the BBC World Service Inquiry programme about how the smugglers do it.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34934574

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    Smuggling thru ports of entry is the #1 way drugs get in. But there's many ways it can be done.
    Immigrants coming here is not typically a way they do that.

    That is just the nonsense the RW talking heads present to their audience as a way to rile them up and feed them conspiracy theories.

    Notice the OP provided not a shred of evidence to back up the OP.
     
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    Anyone?
     
  21. dairyair

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    I think that is the intent.
    Did you notice no facts were given in the OP to provide some evidence to the claim made?
     
  22. dairyair

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    Are seriously using facts to disprove all the facts the OP provided?
     
  23. dairyair

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    But, it does make some people think the border is the problem. And it's the fault of 1 of the major parties in the USA.

    Now, most of the drugs are smuggled thru ports of entry, so the border is a big problem. But neither side knows what to do about it.

    The football being used by one of the major parties is they think a wall will stop the drugs from coming in.
    Which of course, it won't, they've been fed a major lie, but believe that anyway.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34934574

    ... "[Now] well over 95% of the drugs are moving on the water via container ships, non-commercial vessels, pleasure boats, sail boats, fishing boats. They also have fast boats which try to outrun our law enforcement assets.
     
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    And what do you think the "path to citizenship" is all about?
     
  25. Cybred

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    Becoming a LEGAL citizen.
     
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