It's not them, it's HIM

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  1. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

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    You would have to ask them.

    I've always wondered why people vote based on who they like. We aren't voting for class president or homecoming queen.
     
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    Most people vote for the candidate they believe is marginally less worse.
     
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    Hillary was the most qualified person to ever run for the office.

    People just couldn't stand her. I couldn't stand her either.
     
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    I have to assume you're referring to Joe Bide.
     
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    This is true. Nobody is directly responsible for Trump becoming president other than Trump and those who voted for him, but the media and others who could not stop reacting to him absolutely did enable him.

    And the Democratic party did as well, putting establishment self-entitled Hillary Clinton up as nominee. She was uniquely politically positioned to lose to Trump and many of us saw it at the time. Bernie could have beaten Trump, as could have most other Democrats.
     
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    I rarely use the C or S word to describe a fellow woman, but she’s the absolute worst. She’s as deplorable as Trump, and is also beyond corrupt. She just knows more politicians and words. She has a bunch more words. Beleeb me.
     
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    Yes it does. But it remains true, and Trump benefits enormously from it.
     
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    That's not what I said.

    Trump had plenty of help. Some of it came from Moscow.

    What I am saying is that the deplorables own themselves.
     
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    Most qualified person to govern maybe. I don't know. Definitely not the best political candidate. She was uniquely politically toxic.
     
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    Yea, she was a terrible politician.

    We shouldn't be trying to elect a politician though.

    Hillary was a terrible candidate, and the American electorate is terrible at electing leaders.
     
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    Did Moscow change your vote? It didn’t change mine. No Russians were involved in my vote. Americans who can have their minds changed by Russia are still Americans.

    My neighbor might listen to his gardener from Mexico. It’s his right.
     
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    If advertising didn't work, candidates wouldn't have to raise so much money.

    Of course Moscow influenced your vote, just like campaign ads did.
     
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    He was also a house member before that and an ally of the late John McCain. Mr.RINO himself,
     
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    Utter nonsense. Moscow spent barely 10 million dollars assuming you believe any thing coming out of the intelligence community in a campaign that both sides soent billions on I'm still waiting to see that illusive Russian facebook ad every leftist assures me turned the 2016 election for Trump.
     
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    So , Trump DOJ and Trump FBI was covering up Biden family crime. Well that’s new. I thought Trump was laow and order guy, but it seems like he was covering up crimes.
     
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    Candidates would do better to save their money and not do campaign ads. No one listens to them except maybe you I guess.
     
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    And it is because of that reason the Republicans may never win the house for another generation if they survive at all after Trump is sentenced. They have wasted far too much time placating the Orange Blubber rather than legislating. There are consequences for that level of stupidity and ignorance.
     
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    Liberal lie! Obviously it’s just a coincidence that everyone who has ever worked for Trump is simply UNHINGED and a RINO. It’s THEM! Not him.
     
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    Majority of Americans believe Trump has done ‘something illegal’: poll

    The NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist National Poll released Friday, found that 51 percent of Americans believe the former president has done “something illegal,” 27 percent said he’s done something “unethical,” but “not illegal” and 19 percent said he’s done “nothing wrong.”

    78% THINK HE'S AT LEAST UNETHICAL

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...elieve-trump-has-done-something-illegal-poll/
     
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    In what way did Moscow force me to vote third party? Careful how you answer…..
     
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    Another right winger who believes it's OK for a foreign government to interfere in the US elections, Shocking

    Details: On July 13, 2018, a federal grand jury sitting in the District of Columbia returned an indictment against 12 Russian military intelligence officers for their alleged roles in interfering with the 2016 United States (U.S.) elections.

    https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/ru...:text=Details:,United States (U.S.) elections.


    The Russian government directed extensive activity against U.S. election infrastructure. The Committee found the activity directed at the state and local level began in at least 2014 and carried into at least 2017.

    GOP LEAD SENATE REPORT

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov...directed extensive,carried into at least 2017.

    Senate report outlines ‘grave’ Russian threat in 2016 election interference probe
    The report details ties between the Trump campaign and Russia but doesn’t find evidence of coordinated scheme

    https://rollcall.com/2020/08/18/sen...ee-russian-interference-2016-election-report/
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It’s been a few weeks since someone’s called me a right winger. I’m more into being called a loonie lefty these days, since I openly and proudly support trans people. WTG!

    And….. HTF does my libertarian nature get compromised by Russia? Be very, very specific.

    Have to shout out to my buddy @FatBack … got called a right winger again!
     
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    And they have been doing that for years now. Special prosecutors have been assigned and what has been the outcome? Some disgruntled ex employees, a. Ex business partner who said nothing happened a Chinese spy and some Dick Pics of Hunter
     
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    Sorry, libertarians are farrrrr right on most things

    Although several modern American libertarians reject the political spectrum, especially the left–right political spectrum, several strands of libertarianism in the United States and right-libertarianism have been described as being right-wing, New Right or radical right and reactionary.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber...libertarians,or radical right and reactionary.


    Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism or right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political philosophy that supports capitalist property rights and defends market distribution of natural resources and private property.

    The term right-libertarianism is used to distinguish this class of views on the nature of property and capital from left-libertarianism, a type of libertarianism that combines self-ownership with an egalitarian approach to natural resources. In contrast to socialist libertarianism, right-libertarianism supports free-market capitalism.


    Like most forms of libertarianism, it supports civil liberties, especially natural law, negative rights, the non-aggression principle, and a major reversal of the modern welfare state.

    Right-libertarian political thought is characterized by the strict priority given to liberty, with the need to maximize the realm of individual freedom and minimize the scope of public authority. Right-libertarians typically see the state as the principal threat to liberty. This anti-statism differs from anarchist doctrines in that it is based upon strong individualism that places less emphasis on human sociability or cooperation

    Right-libertarian philosophy is also rooted in the ideas of individual rights and laissez-faire economics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
     

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