It's not them, it's HIM

Since you seem to be trying using that as an excuse as to why trump did nothing, no I don't accept it.

 

The dishonest media forced Trump to do things.
Then they could conveniently complain about Trump not doing those things later to make him look bad.
But of course, if he had done those things, they would have used that to make him look even more bad.

Is it fair for you to blame Trump for not doing something, when the media you support, where you get your information, would have made Trump look like a fascist dictator abusing his power if he had done it?

 

Sorry but the media making him look bad is not an excuse for him not to do something.

 

Actually it is, if you think about it.

Media has a lot of power and influence, controls destiny.

If he wanted to have a chance of winning reelection, he had to avoid doing anything that the media could easily use against him.

Just admit it. You'd probably now be calling Trump a fascist for doing something that you are now saying he should have done.

 

Probably, but he if were a real leader he would have done it. And its still no excuse.

 

We hear the term RINO a lot now because Trump and the MAGA crowd use it to attack any Republican that isn't fully towing the Trump line.

 

Post of the month award....

"It's not them, it's HIM" is a lie when so many people failed so many times ....the thread title is back asswards... "It's not him, it's THEM"

 

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and how long was he in DC?

 

The Term Rino began during the Reagan Administration. I believe it was Gingrich coined it so yeah your understanding is seriously flawed

 

It is interesting, all the previous POTUS from both side of the political party could work with DC bureaucrats and get things done. And when things went wrong they didn’t blame “deep state” I never heard Obama say “ Republicans in DOJ sabotaging my agenda”. I didn’t hear W.Bush say “ Deep state CIA operative stopping me catching Osama or Deep state NSA not looking WMD in Iraq”. I didn’t hear Jimmy Carter complain military leadership are all conservative who sabotage rescuing hostages from Iran so Reagan can win election.

Every government agency, every government institution are full of republicans, democrats , independent or some are apolitical. Sure, some people bring their politics at work and reluctant what WH of opposite party wants to do. But at the end of the day POTUS take responsibility of what goes on in his administration.

Trump is the only POTUS who blame everyone but himself. Trump is the only one who faced “deep state”. Everyone sabotage Trump. Even Trump own AG of DOJ don’t prosecute criminal like HRC or Biden because Bill Barr is RINO, Jeff Session is Bureaucrats.

These are all excuses. At some point people must accept Trump is incompetent. Bill Barr is not the problem, Jeff session is not the RINO, Wray is not “Biden lover” and “deep state” always existed in both administration. Only problem is Trump.

 

You mean as a senator? 10 years. So ?

 

It was a common term way before Trump. You hear what you wanna hear.

 

the RINOs are actually traditional conservatives, the MAGAs are not even conservatives, but populists

 

Not everybody shares your level of TDS.

Don't fool yourself.

The extent which he lives in your head rent free is not the normal.

 

It is over a year away from an election and you are obsessed with a person who may be one of the candidates to choose between at that time.

 

If Pat Sajak was facing criminal indictments, people would be talking about it.

I'm not obsessed with anything. I never bring the Orange man up. I've only referred to him at all when someone else has brought it up. Usually because it was brought up by someone who supports him.

 

He originally won because the media covered him 24/7. Most of his campaign ads were free, in the form of CNN, FOX AND MSNBC.

 

The trend on this board isn't his supporters bringing him up. It's almost always his detractors. It may not be an obsession for you personally, but it is definitely an obsession here.

And the irony is that the man thirsts for and thrives on attention. If he was ignored rather than obsessed over by those on the left, he would lose most of his power and has the media not covered him 24/7 in 2016 he likely never would have become president. A massive part of his appeal to his base is that he is a middle finger to the left. The more people react to it the more support he gains.

 

I tend to agree with Jolly. The left is pretty complicit in Trump's approval ratings.

I mostly ignore him, now. The exception for me, personally, is when the right chastises Biden for supposed favors from the Chinese, when it's not even a secret that Ivanka walked away from the China visit with all sorts of glam bag gifts.

So, it's not even about Trump, really. It's about his hypocritical supporters who see a "maybe?" issue as the end of the world itself, when an actual favor gathering trip was not even acknowledged.

(Don't even accuse me of only calling out the right on the hypocrisy. Partisans of all flavors use hypocrisy as their favorite debate tool.)

 

They thought they were but then we found out different and instead the DOJ and FBI were doing everything they could NOT to investigate them and in fact cover them up.

 

The left hasn't forced anyone to support Trump.

People who support Trump are responsible for their support.

Trump supporters aren't puppets of the left.

 

No, but they do like making lefties cry. If you saw all the crying on that election night, you'd know that they achieved that goal. Lefties have been crying every day, all day, since. It's all some can think about. Letting Trump live in their head, rent free, 24/7, makes Trump supporters giggle with delight. Most of them can't even stand the man, but they like the taste of lefty tears too much. So, the support continues.

 

Yea, well that makes them terrible people. Some might even say, deplorable.

 

Don't hate the player. They are just playing the game. Why did team blue put up a candidate nobody likes?

 

The media on the Left originally wanted him to win the Republican nomination, ironically, thinking that if he got the nomination it would then be an easy win for them in the election.

Despite some of his extremist policy proposals, which they felt made him "unelectable", many of his policy stances were actually very moderate, somewhere between Democrat and Republican (he was from NYC after all). All the more reason the media probably felt it was a safe idea to give his campaign a light push towards winning the nomination.
In my opinion, I think what they really resented most about Trump was his success. That he was able to steal so many of their voters away from them, voting blocks and states they had just taken for granted. They underestimated his popularity.