Effective Ukrainian Partisan Attacks on Russian Forces

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  1. Giftedone

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    Jack obliged in giving you an example. I CBA, and I know that you know what that stands for, mate.
     
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    #729 is a good start. Others in other threads.
     
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    In Ukraine the Russians are foreign invaders.
    Ukrainians are breaking their ties with the Russian language
    By Francesca Ebel and Kostiantyn Khudov

    KHARKIV, Ukraine — In Kharkiv, a historically Russian-speaking city in eastern Ukraine, just 25 miles from the Russian border, Ukrainian classes are in high demand. Waiters, hairdressers and shopkeepers have stopped using Russian. Ukrainian language books are flying off the shelves, and local publishers are struggling to keep up with orders.

    One of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s central — and false — justifications for invading Ukraine, that he was defending Russian-speaking people, has backfired dramatically.

    In cities across Ukraine, people started bringing their Russian literature to local recycling stations to be shredded and converted into toilet paper. Street names have been changed to honor Ukrainian heroes instead of Russian writers. Russian dishes, like pelmeni dumplings, have been relabeled on restaurant menus. Radio stations stopped playing songs by Russian artists, long popular in Ukraine. . . .
     
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    Jack did not give an example .. yet another falsehood on your part .. desperately trying to deflect from your obligation. You were the one claimed "Everything" I said was Kremlin Propaganda .. but you .. nor Jack have come up with anything I said that was Kremlin Propaganda.

    What part of Quote what I said that was Kremlin Propaganda .. do you not understand ? you made the accusation .. now back it up .. or resign your position due to yet another falsehood.
     
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    Sure he did.
     
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    Sorry, but that defense is not available to you.
    ". . . a Kremlin narrative effort to portray the Ukrainian counteroffensive as a failure, increasingly overstating Ukrainian losses and writing less about Russia's losses and challenges . . . "
     
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    A complete falsehood on your part.. What part of the word "Quote" do you not understand?

    . Either Quote what you are claiming is Kremlin Propaganda from me .. or shut your foul mouth and admit your false accusation.

    No he didn't .. back up your completely false claim by Quoting where Jack Quote's me saying what you claim is Kremlin Propaganda. .. or shut your potty mouth and take back your false accusation.
     
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    I stand by what I said, and I endorse what Jack just said above.
     
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    I am not defending anything.. You are the one claimed "Kremlin Propaganda" . Now either quote what it was that I said that you are claiming was Kremlin Propaganda .. apologize for this false accusation.
     
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    This quote from your #729 is conclusive. Case closed.
    ". . . luring the enemy into the death trap ... part of the overall Russian war strategy that has been so effective. Bakhmut a prime example .. rather than take the city .. let the enemy continue to throw forces into the "Cauldron" where they are slaughtered.

    . . . . kept throwing troops into the meat grinder ..not listening to his generals thinking he was gaining something - Bakhmut cost some 80,000 ukrainian troops ... the Russians a 10th of that -- and ended up falling in the end. . . ."
     
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    Please see #786.
     
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    You made the assertion that I was speaking "Kremlin Propaganda" Quote what I said that you are claiming is Kremlin Propaganda or take back your made up false accusation and apologise for your pox on humanity .
     
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    Please see #786.
     
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    The above assessment of what happened in Bakhmut is the Truth .. it is what happened. How is this then "Propaganda" -- where is the falsehood ?

    "Case Closed" the only closed case here is your lack of understanding of what propaganda is .. and the fact that once again you are wrong.. caught spewing made up falsehood and personal invective because you can't find an argument.
     
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    Quote what you are claiming is falsehood .. "Kremlin Propaganda" or Please Shut up :)
     
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    It's consistent with the Kremlin narrative effort and contrary to credible sources. It's propaganda -- case closed.
     
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    Jack has been kind enough to point it out for you, and I stand by what I said.
     
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    "WHAT" is contrary to which credible source and in what way. The only closed case is the fact that you don't have one .. just unsubstantiated made up gibberish.
     
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    Sorry, but that would merely further your goal of wasting everyone's time. The text you posted is inconsistent with reporting from anywhere but Moscow. Case closed.
     
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    Quit pretending you have knowledge of law .. specially US law and Law as per the founding principle. You have not asked a question .. . but made a false accusation .. found guilty in this court of Law .. unable to state your case . never mind prove case.

    Bakhmut was a Cauldron .. a Ukrainian Sausage Meat Grinder .. .. You and Durandal Cry out "Kremlin Propaganda" .. but this is what is claimed by Pro Western, anti West and those in the middle. So if you are saying this is "Kremlin Propaganda" you are claiming that these Pro Western Sources are "Kremlin Propaganda" .. which is fine .. but you have both previously claimed that there is no Propaganda in the Western Media :) and as such .. this is a blazing inferno of self contradiction friends :) Har har har :cheerleader::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Your post was the Kremlin version. Case closed.
     
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    Jack was helpfull in pointing out your blazing "Kremlin Propaganda" self contradiction -- no surprise you wish to stand by this fallacy --- in keeping with your hatred for essential liberty -- in favor of the Azov Nazi trope - something reported up and down on both sides of the mainstream .. yet you cry out "Kremlin Propaganda" .. same cry ... same self contradiction .. yet you stand by :)

    Where does this vicious circle of logical fallacy end Durandal ?
     
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    Well, that's made it very easy for me. The post I'm quoting is a perfect example of you posting Kremlin propaganda verbatim.
     
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    Playground ? --- Adult Room ? Try not to confuse :) and stop hating on Liberty .. a most Anti American Trait
     

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