President Biden won't pardon son Hunter, White House says

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    He isn't going to be convicted of anything, so what's the point of a pardon?
     
  2. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

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    LOL, another of your "if you don't believe me, asks me" gobbledegook.
    That was the only hit on google? :eek: really?

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  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is the definition. Sorry it isn't to your liking.

    Do you have something specific, you'd like to debate?

    I didn't think so.
     
  4. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

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    IT'S PART OF THR DEFINITION. This is not a formal debate, so, the broader definition applies. I was just being gentle on you using "weasel words" rather than 'usual Uber-partisan BS".
     
  5. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol

    you're really riding on those indictments.

    Last I checked, we have this thing called a verdict.

    All of those facts and logics go out the window to satisfy your insatiable Trump vehemence.
     
  6. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The evidence?

    They haven't even put Trump on trial yet.

    These posts are so completely detached from the reality of the situation, and polar opposite perspectives between Trump and Biden.

    There is absolutely no doubt among anybody that it is all driven by partisanship.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Weasel words are words generalized words not conducive to coherent thought.

    It's another way of saying you haven't offered anything that moves the debate forward. You're just talkin' drivel.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    New indictments, more to come. [

    He'll be convicted. IF not, he's one sly fox.

    But, I doubt it.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you are going to inject yourself into a conversation, which is fine, click back to see what is being talked about.

    The 'evidence' requested was for Joe Biden.
     
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    "First son Hunter Biden was set to receive sweeping immunity protection under the terms of a plea deal negotiated with federal prosecutors ....
    The memo stated that prosecutors would also not seek to charge Hunter Biden for any federal crimes attached to his case, which included millions of dollars in missed tax payments between 2016 and 2019.

    The deal only left open the possibility of “prosecution for any future conduct” by the president’s son — ensuring that possible violations of foreign lobbying laws and money laundering would be forever uncharged."
    Hunter Biden plea deal shows feds agreed to not charge past crimes — but were called out in court (nypost.com)
     
  11. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Innocent until proven guilty.

    I know it's painful, but Trump is innocent.
     
  12. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "But the evidence against Trump is clear"

    Literally the 2nd line of three lines I was responding to.
     
  13. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    In a court of law, but in the court of public opinion, we are entitled to our opinions based on publicly available evidence
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You'd have to go back a few clicks to understand that the discussion was about Hunter, and the Trump mention was a side note.

    If you had done that, you'd understand that you should have noted who you were talking about.

    that's what I mean by 'going back to get the gist of the conversation' when you inject yourself into someone's conversation.
     
  15. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Everything in the indictment is backed by Trump staff testimony or documented evidence.

    Based on that FACT, I feel safe in forming opinions.

    Read the indictment.
     
  16. jcarlilesiu

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    When talking the judicial process, the court of public opinion is about as important and useful as a nipple on a man.
     
  17. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah.

    You made a comment, based in your alt reality, and you got called on it.

    Good enough for me.
     
  18. jcarlilesiu

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    Nah.

    The extremists are going to play their partisan games and formulate their meaningless opinions.

    Let me know when they get a conviction.
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Proves nothing, could very well be a formality or before the state department concluded Shokin wasn't doing his job because that was the assessment as time progressed.

    Solomon's reportage has declined in quality, in the last few years. He used to write for TheHill.com, but since leaving, TheHill.com has been critical of his work. I think he was forced to resign.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/19/...omon-columns-investigation-results/index.html

    Let's see all the relevant timelines.
     
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    The facts alleged dont amount to a crime.
     
  21. dixon76710

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    What assessment was that? You wont find any such assessment before Biden went to Ukraine and an abundance of such assessments offered in defense of Biden insisting he be fired, AFTER his trip to Ukraine. The Prosecutor hadnt even been in office for a year AND had plans to interview Burisma Board members including Hunter and Devon Archer.
    AND we now have from Hunters emails, ONE month before Bidens trip to Ukraine, the negotiations between Hunter and Burisma and Hunter's job of getting any investigations into Burisma and its owners closed.


    "According to him, NABU employee Polina Chyzh was instructed by an employee of the US Embassy Anna Yemelyanova to provide information on the case of former Minister of Ecology and owner of Burisma Group Mykola Zlochevsky. The MP also announced the amount of money that was transferred to representatives of the Burisma Group, including Hunter Biden.

    According to Derkach, Shokin repeatedly appealed to NABU Director Sytnyk as part of criminal proceedings against Burisma, but constantly received formal responses. Shokin's activities, according to the MP, caused Joe Biden's open irritation, and his fifth visit to Kyiv in two years, December 7-8, 2015, was devoted to resolving the issue of Viktor Shokin's resignation due to the cases of Zlochevsky and Burisma Group.

    As Derkach reported, "the subject of pressure was $1 billion loan guarantee, which the United States was supposed to provide to Ukraine."

    The court ordered the SBI to investigate the "leak" of secret information by the NABU leadership at the request of Shokin (interfax.com.ua)

    "According to Viktor Shokin, he had a plan to investigate the activities of Hunter Biden, including interrogations and other procedures for all members of the board of the Burisma Group. Moreover, Shokin repeatedly appealed to the head of NABU Sytnik as part of the criminal proceedings against the company, but constantly received formal replies.

    Shokin's activity caused Joe Biden's undisguised irritation. His fifth visit to Kyiv on December 7–8, 2015 was dedicated to resolving the issue of the resignation of Shokin due to the Zlochevsky case. The subject of pressure was $1 billion of loan guarantees that the United States was to provide to Ukraine."
    MP Andriy Derkach: 'NABU Leaks' is the key for salvaging Ukraine-U.S. relations (interfax.com.ua)
     
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    KJP is a liar.
     
  23. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I regret to inform you that you are on an opinions forum. Get over it.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Drivel
     
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    The facts are derived from the mouths, emails, texts of REPUBLICANS appointed by TRUMP

    Those are the facts. Whether they get a conviction, we shall see. but, the facts are compelling.
     
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